i can't believe that i'm coming out of lurk mode for "i heard somebody on the radio say...", but that being said, if this was in any way possible, it would be done, and i would support it. yao, steve, brand and scrubs makes the playoffs. making the playoffs gets brand to re-sign. making the playoffs gets les to write the check... But, i don't believe it at all. what i think is funny is that Clutch also does not believe it, and yet still we talk about it. Funniest of all, is that there are posters who would not do it. WoW
Cuttino and Eddie for Brand and Piatowski. That's the deal...the only truly realistic possibility IMO. And it works under the cap. Any deal not involving Cat for Brand will not work for the Clippers, and it won't even work for the Rockets, even though they wouldn't realize it. Just imagine how frustrated we've been at times when Yao has been denied the ball. Imagine if we had Steve and Mobley with Brand and Yao waiting down low for the ball...that's even more frustration and a chemistry problem waiting to happen. I really don't think any team will survive with 4 guys needing their shots. I wouldn't give up Posey, Cato, and probably not even Nachbar in a deal like this either. Not that they would want Posey over Cat, anyway. Cato they might want, but if we traded him we'd be forced to watch Collier start should Yao or Brand get hurt. A lineup of [Yao, Brand, Rice/Morris, Posey, Steve] would be beautiful, with Piatowski and Cato off the bench. A future lineup of [Yao, Brand, Boki, Posey, Steve] would be even better. I have no problem with Morris starting this year either, he's been as consistent as anyone on the team. <b>However</b>, I wouldn't pull the trigger right away. After playing 2 of our best games of the season, a trade like this might really hurt the team for a while. I'd wait till around the deadline, and see where we stand.
So would I. But, I'm figuring that any trade Sterling is involved in, would have to be loaded with draft picks. That way, he can keep the NBA farm system stocked.
Getting Brand would mean a better Rockets team. Moochie and Griffin for Brand works. The only question is: could we get Brand back for 03-04?
I know several marketing types that work for the Rockets and they say he's just too popular to move. As a true Rocket fan, I want the team to be as good as possible so I think we could do better with another backup pg. I wish we'd trade him....but its not gonna happen soon.
Has anyone else considered that there are other teams that could offer a better trade than Griffin and Mobley for Elton Brand. I don't see why the Clips would be that interested in Griffin since they've already got Ely and Wilcox at the 4. Not to mention they have Quentin and Maggette at 2. They're going to be a deeper team if they make this trade, but it's quality over quantity, right?
Yes talent is important but chemistry is equally important (Just see how much less talented but good chemistry teams like T-Wolves and Jazz do better than talented but bad chemistry teams like Clippers). Using trade to solve every losing streak is not gonna cut it. EG and Moochie seem to be guys who are good for team chemistry.
Jeff, don't you think les will make at least a couple of bucks off the increased sale of paraphanalia to the asian community?
I wouldn't know why Houston would be the best bet for Brand going to the Rockets, but in my opinion..... Brand is a good player and yes, it would be too good to be true if he would join the Rockets but for 1 year? no not all that great. Say we lose him and what if we traded Eddie for Brand. Brand moves to another team for a fat contract that the Rockets can't fill and we lose a PF. I like Brand yes, but it's too risky. How many other teams would like to have Brand and how many other teams NEED a PF. Hes going for the fat contract!
I don't think Mobley would mind the trade to the Clips, he is crazy enough to think that he could turn them around, and he would be playing with his best friend Odom. Brand is a SMART, HEADY, team player. He would have no problem fitting in with Yao and Steve, think of the High/Low post game between Brand and Yao. Also, Griff has not shown the fire that makes a player a superstar, brand has.... Piatkowski is a great 3 point threat. Mobley/Griff for Piat/Brand makes a lot of since for both teams. Man, that would be awesome. DD
Lets keep perspective here. Brand/Pike for Griff/Mobley is a fantastic deal for us but if we have to keep trucking as is, I think we'd be better than OK. We're learning. I certainly think this deal should kept as small as possible. Outisde of Brand, that team is crap and all things considered, I'd rather bet on our crap than theirs.
Cara, You and others keep on bringing up the chemistry issue which I adamantly agree on. But you make it sound like Eddie G and Mobeley are great for our chemistry. Until the past 2 games, many deemed THEM to be the PROBLEM with our chemistry. Eddie still loves shooting 3s like a SG. Mobeley just loves shooting period. Granted, they played well this game and "seem" to be adapting but its only been a few games. Brand on the other hand seems to be the perfect role player for us given that he does not need set plays, plays great d, and rebounds like a mad man. So my point is that if anything, Brand will be better for chemistry purposes than Eddie and Cat.
Hey, I didnt want to start a new thread, since this is about radio. I found links to many nba games, to listen live on the internet for free to. Most of them do work, but the thing is the links that work are for other teams, the ones i find for the rockets are all busted. I dont get it, why only rocks links not working? one link is. http://www.penguinradio.com/search/db.cgi?&keyword=basketball&view_records=go I am not sure if all these work on this site, but its one that i was just on.
There is a reason he signed a dirt-cheap contract with us. He LOVES playing for the Rockets. Even though most of us don't appreciate him, he is one player that plays his heart out every game. Might not play very smart every game, but he will come about. Don't do it Rocks!
Parting Steve and Mob might be a good thing for the Rockets eventually. Mob, KT and Steve had been running the ISO for 'perfection' last couple of years, and that indeed won 45 games one time. But with zone defense, the ISO becomes craps and detrimental to Rox's offense. By getting rid of both KT and Mob, rockets' offense might become trully the motion one that everybody has been preaching for.
Hopefully MObes willl "get it" now that the offense should go through Yao. Mobes and Stevie apart...trying to imagine that....it's hard to do.
I know it's hard to part with Mobley, but if we're making regular trips to the finals, it will soften the blow. Mobley/Griff for Brand/Pike wouldn't be enough for them Here's what you do, you call Memphis and say: "We're dealing for Brand, so our pick is NOT going to be that good. How about trading our pick back, while sending you a future 1st, future 2nd, and swapping Cato with Lorenzen Wright? Once we get this done, we go back to the Clippers. THEN, we offer the same deal of Mobley and Griffin, but WITH a draft pick next year, for Brand and any of their swingmen that would work cap-wise. Worst case scenario, that player is Pike. Mobley/Griffin/1st rounder next year for Brand/Pike or Maggette or Q Richardson Adding to this: Once you have Ming, Brand, and Francis...there's no more "yeah, but so n so needs his shots..." Are you kidding me? Anyone who demands shots, TRADE HIM. CUT HIM. You can quite LITERALLY fill the rest of the spots with Minimum contract FA's, NBDL and CBA players.
Most of you guys dont know what you are talking about. First of all I have a season pass tickets to the Clipper games so I have seen Elton Brand alot. I am not a Clipper fan but my dad bought the pass because they are a fun team to watch. Elton does not take anything away from his team mates. He is a team player. He does not want to take 20 shots a game. Most of his points comes from put backs and the free throws. The guy is also automatic from 15 feet. Most of the plays do not go through him when it comes to posting up. They always give the ball to the Candi man which then he dishes it out and or finds Elton cuting and he gets an easy bucket. The Clips use Brand when it comes to iso. They give him the ball at the 15 or 17 feet mark, then he posts them up or takes em in for a lay up or dunk. Elton wont take anything from Yao, Francis, or Mobley. The Clippers dont really need a sg. They have tones of players that can play that position and score 20 points or so. All they need is some one who can replace him not on the ofensive but on the defensive end. I think EG and would be a good straight up trade. Donald Stirling does not care about winning. TRUST ME. He only cares about the money. I dont blame the staff but the owner. If you bring someone else that cares about his team they might make the playoffs this year. Mobley should not be traded. Its like taking a kid from his mother. Mobley, Francis, Yao Yao should be locks. I dont care for the rest of the players. Money will not be an problem because you have Rice's $12 million contract expiring. My take is Eddie Griffen and Jason Colliar for Elton Brand.
