Bottom line. If we did anything differently, we probably wouldn't have Yao. And I wouldn't take any players from last years draft (or a combo of players) over him. I told you already... Jefferon, Murphy and probably... Tinsley or Parker. Hmm, we are already the second youngest team in the league, and ya wanna add three rookies (with contracts that will end at the same time)?
Have patience with Griffin he will get better.He needs to get stronger and attend Pete Newell's Big Man Camp after the end of the season. I'm encouraged that he is trying to get inside as opposed to only shooting 3's.
How about begining of the year when Seattle wanted to unload Rashard Lewis to us if we threw in EG in the deal? I wouldn't mind Lewis on our team.
Well . . .Nets chose Jefferson . . . the deal was already set. . . we probably would not have picked him if it was not set already Rocket River
#13 Richard Jefferson (Actions speak louder than...) #18 Zach Randolph (EG Replacement / +off, - def) #23 Jamal Tinsley ( + a true point / - the dribblers contract!) 1 Francis, Tinsley 2 Posey, Mobley 3 Jefferson, Rice, Nachbar = "HOW SWEET IT IS!!!" 4 Taylor, Randolph, Morris 5 Yao, Cato Without a doubt... Don't think I haven't played this one over and over in my head.
Eddie is like a project for the Rockets. He came into the league at jst 19 and today he's still only 20. This guy has the potential and a lot of time to develop. As fans, we would like to see his game dominate now, but to be realistic, I'd keep him around for at least another 3 years before we can truly see what his full potential is.
I agree we need to give Eddie more time. Yes, he also doesn't get the ball in the post very often. However, what scares me about Eddie is that I don't see much offensive potential. I can't even remember a good strong move in the post that he has made. He does show some promise on defense, but not much on offense. This is why he is different than guys like KG and Shawn Kemp. While these guys were inconsistent in their earlier years, they still showed some serious offensive potential. I was excited when they got him, but seeing what I see now, I would gladly take KT and Jefferson over Griff and Posey.
Well, Believe, before the trade was announced, those were the 3 players I had hoped we would pick (Jefferson/Randolph/Tinsley), barring trades, although, once we would have been down to Tinsley, I probably would have wanted to snag Loren Woods, with how I was thinking at the time, and I would have been wrong. I never even thought of Parker, I must admit. But, I was thrilled when we made the trade for Griffin, since many had him possibly #1 in the draft, and I believed the fears about his attitude, which caused him to drop in the draft, were unfounded. I am confused about Eddie's lack of progress this year. I still believe he could be a real star, even a superstar, but he does seem confused in his development, with the good ole sophomore jinx. You always go for the best player in a deal like that, so with what we understood at the time, it was the best decision.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Jefferson is a 30% shooter on shots where he tries to create for himself. Believe me. When the playoffs are here, you'll wonder why you didn't see it before. I'm not saying he'll never be able to create for himself, because he's one of the hardest working players in the NBA. But right now, he ain't all that, plus......How much older than Griffin is he? Even if he's only 1 year older than Griffin (I doubt it), Griffin will be better in a year than Jefferson is now. Griffin would be better than K-Mart if he were on the Nets.
The biggest joke was when Rudy said if they had the number one pick they would have taken EG. Rudy and CD appear to have made a mistake. In addition, I am not buying into this Les is not worried stuff, I believe Rudy better get his act together.
Jefferson's a good player, but he feeds off of Kidd. Kidd makes him better, and that the #1 reason why RJ's fg % is so high. I still don't regret trading for Griffin... although I don't think the trade was as lopsided in our favor as I once did. In addition, we need good big men to get out of the west. We already have Yao, but Mo Taylor isn't going to cut it. Mo's a great offensive player that could be lethal of the bench, but he doesnt bring the more all around game that Eddie CAN bring. At least with Griffin, there is some hope that he can develop into one of the better/best pf's in the game.
How would Griffin be better than Martin if he was on the Nets? K-Mart plays with FEROCIOUSNESS, while Griffin looks like hes confused and has no emotion.... your comparing apples and oranges...
Sane is right. Next time you get a chance to check out a Nets game, watch Jefferson's game. He plays within the team-system. He's a SF, with SG skills. But, he's not a "creater." Notice Jefferson's FG%? It's 53.4%!!! Why? Becase his shots are mostly dunks,(alley-oops from Kidd.) His 3pt% is a dismal 29%. Also, during the draft two years ago. I said to myself (when we picked Jeffereson)..."We don't need another SG/SF!" We needed a PF, that could blockshots and rebound. Grifs, offensive game is a plus. I love his post turn-around jumpshot. He's what we needed.
One question I have is (and this is definitely with hindsight and the knowledge that we now have Yao): How nice would it be to have three *role players*? Why does every person on this team have to be a star? Steve is one. Yao is one. Cuttino likes to think he is one. MoT gets paid like one (and I do think he carries himself like he needs to be the focal point). The only real role players? Moochie (ugh) Posey Have a couple of guys who know they aren't meant to be the focus of team and accept their roles would be nice. Yes, I'm disappointed with what EG has shown... but as everyone has said, he's 20. My point, I guess, is that if he becomes a monster, will that really benefit the Rox? Steve + Cuttino + Yao + EG = not enough shots.
Griffin is passionate. All players want to win. Griffin just doesn't show it because he has no facial expressions. Griffin should get more respect. He blocks so many shots but is called for fouls... ANYWAYS. Just replay tonight's game and everyone will smile.
Griffin is not even 21 yet, he is still a kid, jefferson played for arizona, and simply has more experience than griffin, This year ed has had to compete with yao steve and cat for the ball. I think the beginning of next year and the end of this season is when ed will start to have a consistant impact on games. Remember, athletic wings are a dime a dozen these days, anyone can drive to the hoop, espicially when kidd is dishing you the ball, but pf are hard to come by. Just wait a few more months and griffin will be worth those 3 picks. Also remember griffin lost his brother, which has had a huge impact on him. I know this because I know eddie.
Amare Stoudemire lost his father. His mother is in jail. All he has is his brother. Can I have Eddie Griffin's autograph?
i think someone already mentioned something to this effect, but if the Rox draft Jefferson, Randolph, and Tinsley before last season, they win a lot more than 28 games (Jefferson would fill in nicely for injured Rice, and Randolph for Mo Taylor and Tinsley for migrained Francis)and no Yao and maybe no Nachbar this year. Also the Rox still wouldn't really have a PF for the future, and no one would even entertain thoughts of a dynasty.
You have to love hindsight.. but i remember something about griffins rookie report saying something along the lines of him not being the most passionate bball player, and alot of scouts echoed this opinion.. then les/rudy took the chance and picked him along with 3 picks.. IMO they didnt make the wrong choice because they just wanted to make houston a championship team and hopefully eddie can show that potential he did in the pre-season
