Which one will end up being the betterr passing combo? Julius Peppers/Carson Palmer or David Carr/Terrell Suggs? Which combo would you rather have?
They could have taken Peppers last year and Palmer this year, or they can still take Suggs. My answer, of the 3 QB's Carr, Palmer & Harrington, I feel Carr is 3rd amongst those 3.
I think Andre Johnson is way overrated. A better physical speciman than actual football player. I have never seen Rodgers or a healthy Roy Williams have as little impact on the game as Johnson had a few games (especially his last one in many 1-1 situations). There are at least 8 or so offensive skill position players I would take before Johnson--including one from his team if his healing looks good.
are you serious??? palmer had one good year! he doesn't come close to stacking up against Carr or Harrington, in my opinion.
Take a look at it buddy, Carr only had one good year himself! Carr's junior year (in a poor conf): 216 / 349 * 2729yds * 12 INTs * 23 TDs
Average, but both Harrington and Palmer were playing better competition. What do you think of Chris Simms?
1. cuts both ways...they both had better teammates, too 2. i'm too blinded by being a UT fan to come up with a real good opinion on chris simms. i defer to the scouts on that one!
There is no way you can say Palmer is better than Carr, at least right now. Ive seen Harrington play a few games and I can honestly say that Carr looks better. If you give Carr a decent O-line, he can do many more things than Harrington can.
The only reason why I ask is I think that Simms (and I am a CS supporter) had a good season, but not great. Probably closer to avereage than anything. His stats were: 220 / 368 * 2938 yds * 24 TD * 11 INT So in comparison, I feel that Carr was average in his JR year and his competition was not that great. I feel that Palmer will have a pretty good career. Actually, I think that all of their potential is to be "pretty good" but none of them look to be superstar material. And of the 3 I just do not like what I see in Carr. People that talk about the line being the problem this year as the reason he was sacked so many times but the problem was one in college as well and is listed on NFL.com's scouting report prior to last year's draft, so I am not too sure I think it will remedy itself soon: NFL.com Scouting report: While he shows accuracy on his long passes, his arm strength is adequate, as he tends to arc his deep attempts … Holds the ball too long, inviting the sack, rather than dumping it off or throwing it away … Makes proper checks, but does not have a variety of throws … Needs to improve his pass drop, as he does a lot of three-step motion and will hold the ball a little too long, taking the sack rather than throwing it away.
David Carr played behind an injury plagued, porous, rookie-journeyman offensive line with a guard (McKinney) playing center, and a rookie (Pitts) playing the hardest position, LT. Said rookie had only played about two years of organized football up until this season. Carr's recievers included a rookie only 20 years old (Gaffney), and a journeyman (Bradford), who was having a pro bowl type year until he started getting double teamed and developed a foot injury. It was runningback by committee with major reps by rookie (Wells) who had a leadblocker, another rookie (Baxter) who was also trying to change from carrying the ball to blocking. All players were playing in a new system, with new teammates, and new coaches. Point being - Give Carr protection, a steady running game, and a few recievers who can run routes and catch, and he will be a probowler. In a few years he will be compared to Favre and a few years after that will probably have just as many MVP's. Palmer and Harrington are good but neither could hold Carr's jockstrap. Few years down the road, mark my words.
Everything I included: "While he shows accuracy on his long passes, his arm strength is adequate, as he tends to arc his deep attempts … Holds the ball too long, inviting the sack, rather than dumping it off or throwing it away … Makes proper checks, but does not have a variety of throws … Needs to improve his pass drop, as he does a lot of three-step motion and will hold the ball a little too long, taking the sack rather than throwing it away. " Sounds like what every one was saying about his rookie year. BUT, that is the scouting report on Carr coming out of COLLEGE. That is the story on him for the last 3 years. Some QB's have a problem of knowing when to dump off to avoid the sack. Some guys just naturally do not have a good pocket presence. David has a long way to go before he gets it enough to even be considered a 2nd tier QB in the league. For you to say he is a few years from being in the Farve league, or that he will have just as many (if any) MVP's makes me question your analysis. If you are a huge fan of the Texans (as I am & season ticket holder at that), I can understand you wanting that, but its unrealistic at this point to even suggest it. Farve is far and away my favorite QB, so I would love such a thing, but I would like for you to find me an expert who feels that way, or even some other people in this forum who truly feel that David Carr is the next Farve, or will be anywhere close to him.
I compare Carr to Favre for the intangibles, (leadership, toughness, desire), and the physical skills, (arm strength, accuracy,). Admittedly Carr holds the ball too long and invites sacks, his pocket prescence isn't where it should be. However I'd like to see him in Gannon's situation. With a brick wall of a line and three reliable recievers who actually get open so he doesn't have to hold onto the ball forever. I admit I'm homering a bit, I love the guy and want him to succeed. I'm secure in my faith in Carr though, few years, most likely after Favre has retired, Carr will be in the probowl.
