I think you’re mistaken. I believe what people are saying is 25 starts aren’t enough to prove that Lin can play on this level consistently. It’s the same line of thought – 1 game or 1 good play doesn’t mean he’s able to outplay the opposing player on every matchup. We just need to see more. But unlike many others who’ve already decided a ceiling for him, I’m unsure how he’ll pan out. There was this excellent post that mentioned something about him having a really good chance to become either a great PG or just an average PG. Anyway, based on some posts and articles, I thought it's quite interesting that some perceptions of him is now back to pre-Linsanity – scrubby/mediocre, at best a backup, signed mainly for marketing reasons, etc. Except that now his game is being scrutinized by everyone, including a scary number of people who is rooting for him to fail.
Lock this threat please, no more comparison... they all have own fans. if we keep argue, there will be no end. and this discussion is not really mean anything except make fun of others idol
One more thing: if you compare nash and fisher , whose better? personally i will think nash better, they all have their own fans, but what happen when nash come to lakers , even it just only 2 games... What i mean is, you will not know even someone better then our roster come here and play with harden, it still not 100% will be better then harden and lin now, yet they still need something to prove, not just 1 game... NOBODY know.. try ask d12 come here, ask kobe or nash come here, still not 100% now that houston will be very good, Robin is for batman, Robin won't fit in with spiderman, spiderman will not fit in with batman either...
JCDenton is an idiot because small sample size and not factoring in contract, age, or upside The people say Lowry/Dragic didn't win and Lin did are being almost as dumb, because of all the reasons above, and also because W/L record is a team statistic, not an individual statistic.
Kyle Lowry 10/31/2012 - 21 pts, 7 reb, 8 asst, 25.47 PER (team Lose) Goran Dragic 10/31/2012 - 17 pts, 6 reb, 8 asst, 20.19 PER (Team lose) Jeremy Lin 10/31/2012 - 12pts, 4 reb, 8 assts, 15.07 PER (Team Win)
Are you thinking of Nate Silver's article in the NYT? I'm grossly summarizing his statistical analysis here, but he said Lin had around a 50% chance of being average to above-average, 25% chance of being really good, and 25% chance of being scrubby.
Sorry, forgot the link. This was written back in Feb though, so it's only based on Linsanity numbers. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/11/jeremy-lin-is-no-fluke/
why win does not count? Whether you are a superstar or average player, you are great if you can bring us winning records.
When Lowry walks through his house and stubs his toe, does he flail around and whine for a foul call? Just wondering...
I compare Lin to Wall...since Lin came out about the same time Wall was drafted number 1, and they have played a few games against each other.. albeit one being a summer league game... and not Rose, Lowry or Dragic...even though he did well against Rose their last game head to head... I think the people mostly over reacting are the haters... since they are the only people comparing Lin to Lowry or Dragic or superstars... as no Lin poster on here other than the people trolling are comparing Lin to any superstar... to me he is young talent with potential... and if you are going to compare him... compare him too guys who were drafted around the same time he came into the league... not two guys you basically got rid of... only worrying about Howard.. before Lin was even offered a contract with the Rox... and management decided Howard or lottery
You have to take Lowry out of the equation. He got us a pick that I believe was THE cornerstone to getting Harden. If you want to compare Lowry, Martin and Lamb vs Harden then ok. Now Dragic on the other hand...I always wanted to keep him. I think he's a better player than Lin and I feel Morey made the choice per Les' orders who was thinking of the marketing - trying to get that player to generate at least some interest from the fans. But if a Lin/Harden backcourt generates enough interest to catch the eye of a true max player, then you have to drop the tracking charts altogether.
I saw an interview... where Morey said they didnt expect to get Lin... especially when the Knicks said they would match up to 1 billion dollars and Rox only raise the price on Lin because... they had lost their point guards... (I guess thats when Les got in the picture) not sure where this Idea came... where the Rox were going for Lin over Dragic
its very frustrating to talk with supposed basketball junkies... when even casual basketball fan from around the league knew your management was willing to dump the whole team to get Howard... and then these basketball junkies talk as if Dragic was let go for Lin... as if he wasnt let go because all you cared about was getting Howard...
^ or lottery Asik, Lin and Harden...should be a nice band-aid for a season that was promising to be painful to watch for Rox fans...
They lost all their pgs by choice. The Lowry trade was fine because Dragic was playing pretty good - too good for a backup and Lowry wasn't going to be a backup - so someone had to go. Lowry's trade value was much higher because he is a better playmaker than Dragic's and Lowry was under contract vs Dragic becoming a UFA so they made the smart choice to trade Lowry. Dragic, even though he was a UFA, gave the Rockets every opportunity to match or beat the Sun's offer. Morey and/or Les had the choice of letting him walk and having 0 pgs putting themselves in a hole, which they did. The money they offered Lin was even a little more than what they offered Dragic. I personally think this played out like Les wanted.
this is what I was seeing... . . Phoenix Suns agree to sign Goran Dragic to 4-year deal By Ben Golliver | Blogger July 5, 2012 1:04 am ET The writing seemed to be on the wall for Dragic in Houston, as the Rockets seemed to be in a position where they needed to choose between him and Lowry, two quality point guards who demand both starter minutes and starter salaries. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/e...uns-agree-to-sign-goran-dragic-to-4-year-deal . . . . . At that point, Lin's representatives began going on the offensive, telling clubs that were interested in Lin, most notably the Toronto Raptors, that the Knicks were not likely to match a lucrative offer. But most teams, still convinced the Knicks wouldn't let Lin go, didn't believe them. Then along came the Houston Rockets. The Rockets had not called Lin at 12:01 on July 1, and had not been aggressively recruiting him. But when they finally reached out, the two sides agreed to meet in Houston on July 4. Lin met with Rockets coach Kevin McHale, who told him how well he'd fit into Houston's up-tempo, pick-and-roll offense. Lin was already convinced of that, having watched Goran Dragic, a departing Rockets point guard, excel in McHale's scheme over the second half of the season. Dating back to before he was passed over in the 2010 draft, Lin had told people he felt his game was like Dragic's. It caused many to chuckle -- as in, "Why compare yourself to a reserve?" -- but Lin truly felt their games were similar. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8179341/nba-jeremy-lin-six-degrees-separation-lin-camp
