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Mobley among SGs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by austinrocket, Jan 25, 2003.

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  1. Nova

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    Some of ya'll really don't give Cat enuf respect. This guy works like a motherf'cker and he DOESN'T turn the ball over a spectacular amount of times. Plus he's good on D. He's a great offensive player and his assists are going up. Have ya'll noticed he's getting like 4 assists a game now (not season average, although his season average isn't a bad 3.0 that's going up, but in latter half of the games)? Sure, he's not a great passer, but he would fit on a lot of teams. I see him fitting on this team as well, the only problem might be that we have Francis too. I think Cat's more than good enuf to be our starting sg, is it a better idea to have him come off the bench though? Maybe. Maybe coming in with the second stringers and giving him the ball to score may be a better idea. But whatever the case tone down the hatin' on him. I would NOT want the Rox to ever play him as an opponent... it'd just be too scary.
     
  2. Toast

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    I think this year he's worked extra hard on his defense. He's not complaining to the refs quite as much as he has in the past. I was not impressed with last year's Mobley, but I really like Mobley a lot now. His role on this team is so different from the role other SGs play on other teams, it's hard to compare. It's not apples & oranges, more like baking apples vs. golden delicious apples. But regardless of how he ranks among SGs, he's become much more valuable to the Rockets organization.
     
  3. austinrocket

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    Mobley's turnover arent very high guys.
    Also to say that Larry Hughes is better than Mobley is ludicrous.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    I'd say Ron Artest, Derek Anderson, and Rip Hamilton are better. Ricky Davis and Desmond Mason have more upside because they are so athletic. Mason would be great to have on the Rockets. If these guys are 3rd tier than Mobley is mid-3rd tier. If I had to trade Posey or Mobley, I would rather keep Posey.

    Rip Hamilton replaced Stackhouse and the Pistons haven't missed a beat. In fact he is better for the Pitons because he is smarter, doesnt take bad shots, and is a better shooter (from inside the 3-point line).
     
  5. akuma

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    Okay.

    1. McGrady
    2. Kobe
    3. Pierce
    4. Iverson
    5. Allen
    6. Carter
    7. Finley
    8. Jordan
    9. Rose
    10. Stackhouse
    11. Jones
    12. Sprewell
    13. Szczerbiak
    14. Houston

    The preceding 1st tier/high 2nd tier players have all made all-star teams and/or gotten max or near-max contracts. Will the Cat ever achieve either? Actually the all-star team is a popularity contest, but Cuttino would never make the eastern team no matter how popular he was and the western team would still be very hard. Also it is very hard for a SG to get a max contract these days. All these players are also the Man on their respective team or at least the unequivocal second option.

    15. Wells
    16. R. Davis
    17. Artest

    The preceding three all have better stats. Bottom line if i could trade Mobley for any of them, i would. Well, not Artest. Posey is a similar player without the headaches and violent behaviour. The Cat definitely has a better personality than all of them though which is important.

    18. Hamilton
    19. Christie
    20. B. Barry/D. Mason

    Now these three/four are debatable and Cuttino would likely slip in this group. He's a different kind of player. The others except maybe Hamilton are definitely role players.

    You still have in no particular order:
    23 Derek Anderson
    24 Reggie Miller(still more efficient than Cuttino might ever be)
    25 Correy Maggette(finally breaking out)
    26 Penny Hardaway(very overpaid, but well-rounded contributer)
    27 James Posey
    28 Jason Terry
    29 David Wesley
    30 Mike Miller

    I stand by my original statement of Cuttino being ranked 18-21 all things considered. The skill/talent level of SGs is very good in the NBA. If a SG can start on a team, then he will probably be able to hold his own against almost any other SG. Now don't get me wrong. I actually like the Cat. Seems like a decent guy despite being somewhat underpaid (so are Wells- $6 mil, Anderson - $7 mil, R. Davis - $5 mil, Christie - $6 mil, B. Barry - $5 mil). He also works very hard. And exactly how important is it to be Stevie's friend? Wish he would play smarter though and more within the team concept.
     
  6. Possum

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    Cat is a streaky scorer! He's Mad Max without the defense.
     
  7. HOOP-T

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    Man, some of these responses are CRAZY!

    Mobley is one of the quicker and deadlier SG's in the league. Yeah, he takes some ill-advised shots. But as an overall talent assessment, he stacks up well with many of the top SG's, and has been known to light up some of the top SG's as well.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    akuma, some of the guys on your list are small forwards.
     
  9. UT Baller

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    Take a look at what a lot of these guys a re making and then get back to me. Cat took less $ to play for us and many here reward him with this ****. I love Cuttino, I personally would rather him be our scoring 6th man, but I love the guy's game and personality all the same. Allan Houston? Come on the guy has tools that Cat could only dream about and he doesn't produce anywhere near his skill or contract level. Peace
     
  10. HOOP-T

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    Allan Houston may be the most overpaid, overrated player in the league.

    Well......maybe not THE most, but he's up there anyway.
     
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    This gotta be the joke of the week. Hahahahahaha :D :D
     
  12. kidrock8

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    Mobley is a 6th man who thinks he's the 6th best player in the NBA.

    Lots of flash (and talk) very little substance. If he were a gun, he would be a little cap gun.
     
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    Mobley is a HORRIBLE passing guard and I would much rather see him coming off the bench as a spark-plug for instant offense. He is an excellent shooter and scorer but he does NOT know when not to take a shot. Its almost as if he's oblivious to what the offense is trying to do or who is hot. He's more of a player who will add to the streak if the team is streaking but is horrible for establishing a balanced offensive attack.
     
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    Iverson is over rated(by shootin below 40%)

    1. kobe(he is still quicker and more agile than t mac)
    2. t-mac
    3. pierce(not based on this season)
    4. Allen
    5. Iverson
    6. jones
    7. finely
    8. houston
    9. stackhouse
    10. szczerbiak

    i consider carter a forward
     
  15. kidrock8

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    Bottom line is that he wins, with 11 clowns next to him. Ray Allen? Puhlease. He has had much more talent than AI, and he still can't go as far.

    I'm not a huge AI fan, but he brings intangibles that no other SG in the league brings, Kobe included.
     
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    Cat reminds me of John Starks. Sometimes can win a match with his shooting but sometimes can shoot you out of a match. IMO not good enough to be a 1st or even 2nd scoring option on a contending team (that's the reason NY never won a championship because they used Starks as the 2nd option). But as a 3rd scoring option should be okay. Sadly he's currently used as the 2nd option on our team but hopefully that would change in not distant future.
     
  17. kidrock8

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    Offensively, they are very similar.

    The differences are:

    1. Defense. Starks was a great perimeter defender. Cat is average at best.

    2. Starks knew his role.
     
  18. carayip

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    Starks didn't know his role. Otherwise he wouldn't shoot NY out of that game and gave us the championship.
     
  19. kidrock8

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    All players have messed up in 1 game. What you forget to mention is that Ewing, the team leader, failed to step up, in a Webber-type of way. Starks took those shots by default.
     
  20. Darrinlane

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    Why is everyone whining about Mobley's assist #s? He is a freaking SHOOTING guard. If he was still at the point, I would *****. He has improved his D this year, and seems to have a better shot selection. He is great in crunch time. No....he is no hall of famer.....but Jeez.....we got him in the second round and are paying him beans(by NBA standards...must B nice.:D )
     

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