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10 reason why I'm about to give up

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Another Brother, Jan 27, 2003.

  1. Jebus

    Jebus Member

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    number of current Rockets on our championship rosters: 0.

    there is no "heart of a champion" in any of our players.
     
  2. leebigez

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    This team makes you want to give up. They play hard , but alot of times not smart. I've never seen a pg who can't even start a fastbreak in the middle of the floor. I've never seen a sg who even though the team is playing well and flowing good offensively, he feels the need to take his token shot. I haven't figured out why the coach is scared to yank a player after repeat dumb mistakes. It a lot i can't understand, but the way they use Yao is the most puzzling.
     
  3. HtownRocks3

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    Rudy T. has won 2 championships. Glen Rice has won 1. The rest of our players are young with no experience. They'll grow more together as a team after they get knocked out of the playoffs this year.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Steve's inability to push the ball and create fast breaks is really frustrating. His high stepping just looks stupid, and he never really creats much in transition. Posey knows what he's doing, I think Rudy should experiment with him at the point- forward role. He's very patient, he pushes the ball, and he looks for his teammates. I think they tried it in Denver but I am not sure how it worked out.
     
  5. Jebus

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    Once again, number of rockets on our championship rosters:0.

    Rudy didn't play for them, and it's obvious the players don't listen to his sage advice (either that, or he doesn't have any).

    Glen Rice's championship experience is worth about 0 to this team. I say 'about' zero because when he complained about the Rockets not passing, they actually played some sort of semblance of 'team ball' for a game or two. Then, they predictably slumped back into the "Francis and Cat freezing out Yao, dribbling blindly into quadruple teams, leading to a turnover" offense.

    On a related note, wouldn't you love to have Randy Brown on this team? He has, what, 2 or 3 rings? So he must be as valuable as Rice, maybe even better! That would be AWESOME! In fact, let's trade Griffen for Randy Brown.

    Maybe we could get Jack Haley to come out of retirement, doesn't he have a ring?
     
  6. austinrocket

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    hey,
    you can just give up, we don't need you.
     
  7. Another Brother

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    ...who is "we"and what exactly are you NEEDED for?
     
  8. The Fever

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    AB,

    I agree with your sentiments, but I think giving up might be a little premature. I just wish we could get a coach that would just bone up and bench someone if they are playing bad or not playing in a way that benefits the team. Case in point was yesterdays game....Mobley takes 9 seconds to get the ball past mid-court AND THERE WAS NO PRESS OR DEFENSIVE PRESSURE BEING PLACED ON HIM. That is just piss-poor. That is being lazy, looking for the spotlight to be ON HIM, and that is just not team ball at all.

    The thing that kills me is that Rudy just shakes it off. If it were me, Mobley would have been sitting between Collier and Boki on the bench. The other thing that kills me about Mobley is that he always has to get his shots. Case in point: Posey scores our 6 of our first 8 points. Next time down the floor, Mobley has to dribble thru 4 Bulls and shoot a fade-away 18 footer. Luckily, he made it, but still. He totally disrupts the continuity of the offense JUST SO HE CAN GET HIS SHOTS. Rudy needs to step in and prevent stuff like that from happening.

    I guess my point in all of this Mobley bashing is that Rudy needs to be the one to put his foot down and stick Mobley (or Stevie, or Eddie, or whoever) on the bench. If the players aren't doing what BEST suits the system, bench him. Just like High School or College ball. Rudy is too passive, and he allows stuff like that to happen. I for one am sick of it, and as long as the players are running the team and not the coaches, we will be in the 8th playoff spot or worse every year.

    I think this team has so much promise, but it starts with Rudy. Run an offense. Be a coach, not a puppeteer. Put your foot down when needed, don't let the players run the team. I always hear that the players love Rudy, that he is a players coach. That is because he lets them do whatever the hell they want. If I was on the team, I would love to play for him too!!!

    Dont give up yet AB. It's not over yet.
     
  9. don grahamleone

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    Say it ain't so, AB, say it ain't so.

    Come back to the fair minded people that realize 23-19 is not good or bad, but somewhere in the middle.
     
  10. Another Brother

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    If we were getting better progressively then it wouldn't be so hard. To be so damn good against the Quakers and to play so bad recently is just frustrating.
     
  11. CLFranchise

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    I'm with AB.
    Losing to the Bulls is unacceptable...
     
  12. Free Agent

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    One reason to stay a Rocket fan: Yao Ming.

    End of discussion.
     
  13. Darrinlane

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    Can I join? I'm done with all my crappy optimism. This team is making me ill. We stink...............
     
  14. Darrinlane

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    BETTER than college kids? You shouldn't give their fast break that much credit.





    This negativity is actually kind of fun. No lofty expectations.:D
     
  15. heypartner

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    AB,

    And you call yourself a Rockets Fan Council Member. lol.

    Let's just give up and turn off the TV and stop buying tickets. Who put you on the Council, and why did the TV crew interview you last meeting?

    Tim!! You either bench AB, or you should be FIRED!!

    That's the ticket. Fire Tim!!! He's fielding malcontent, non-ticket-holding whiners on the Fan Council.

    AB is a Fan Cancer Member!
     
  16. Free Agent

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    Please, somebody, anybody...keep of list of all of these Pippens in this thread. This is no place for quitters!

    Either you are in or you are out...don't ride the fence just in case something good happens with this team.
     
  17. don grahamleone

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    Good call! Put me down for the Rockets side of the fence. I'll clean up RockDog schnit til' we fetch a championship. What am I talking about? Oh yeah, Go Rox!
     
  18. Another Brother

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    Hey Bud keep your drawers on, I'm still a fan but my lofty expectations have been extinguished...

    I happen to remember a few negative posts from you too, is there a mole among us?

    Plus, your membership is recognized only by your ability to eat more sandwiches than anyone else!
     
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  19. Zboy

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    Correction. Hakkem won the two championships. Rudy was lucky to have a great player like Hakeem who made his boring plays work. No one could stop Hakeem one on one back then and thus the dump it into Hakeem plays worked. Now that he doesnt have Hakeem to rely on, he is exposed. No wonder Rudy has never been respected around the league by other coaches and his nme hardly comes up in awards for coaches. He cant draw up plays, cant manage substitutions properly. He is good with people but that's about it.

    Glen Rice won the championshp?? HA! This is the same r****d who could have been handed few more rings had he decided not to complain in LA how he was being used. Forcing yourself to be traded from a championship team...Yea I call that being a champion. Isnt this the same guy who has been bricking shots from 3point land for the Rockets. And that is supposed to be his forte??

    Face the truth. With Mobley, Francis, and Rudy still in the mix, this team will always be above average but not good enough to win a seven game playoff series. Maybe 3 game series, because anything is possible in a 3 game series. But for a seven game series, this team lacks some serious BBall IQ.

    *Laugh*
     
  20. Red Chocolate

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    Good lord..

    If you're 'about to give up' on this team, you really don't know much about the ups and downs of NBA basketball.

    What are you all so pissed about? The Rockets haven't played that well since they beat the Lakers, but that's expected. Look at who they've played:

    1/20 @ San Antonio
    1/21 @ Dallas
    1/24 vs Detroit
    1/26 @ Chicago

    Houston was a 7 point underdog against San Antonio, a 9 point dog against Dallas, a 3.5 point favorite against Detroit, and a 3 point favorite against Chicago. It's not like it's UNBELIEVABLE that they could lose to Chicago, who happens to be 15-7 (.688) at home, which is ridiculously good for a 17-27 team.

    Houston had a bad run, but they lost two games they definitely should have lost, and lost two games they probably should have been able to win. For a team as young as the Rockets, that's to be expected.

    Yes, Rudy T made some coaching mistakes, yes the Rockets could have played better, and yes, at times it is very frustrating watching this team play, but if you're about to give up on them because of this 4 game losing streak, that's pretty ridiculous.

    What I do like to see is the Rockets bouncing back tonight and winning against a Memphis team who is playing really well right now. Road wins in the NBA are NOT easy; this was by no means a gimme. The Rockets could have easily had another let down tonight @ Memphis, but they played with focus and pulled out the win.

    Don't give up yet.
     

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