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The issue of Abortion in accordance to Christian beliefs

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by val_modus, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    Did you see rhester's stats? According to those (uncited) stats, 99% of abortions are performed to get rid of an unwanted baby. Does that meet your definition of birth control?
     
  2. Lil Pun

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    Of course this stat is skewed. Abortion ultimately is done because the birth of the child is unwanted, for whatever reason. The thing RM95 is referring to is women aren't out there getting an abortion a month like taking a pill.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Assuming it is a life is your right, but as soon as you think that everyone needs to share that opinion, you are attempting to force your morality on others. Please stop, not everyone shares your moral stance and not everyone chooses to live by it.
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    Because some of us can keep two differing thoughts in our heads at once. I fully support a woman's right to make that choice for herself, but I also recognize that some in our society have deep misgivings about abortion and it is mostly for their benefit that I think we should work to reduce abortion numbers. You see, I believe that in a society, we need to find solutions that take into account everyone's rights and responsibilities as we craft policy to apply to the entirety of the citizenry.

    It is my opinion that if pro-life and pro-choice folks were able to stop fighting, join forces, and spend all of their time, money and energy towards reducing the root cause of abortion, unwanted pregnancy, we would end up benefiting our society and would without doubt reduce the number of abortions without even having to consider a ban (that wouldn't work anyway).
     
  5. HI Mana

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    People should also take responsibility for driving safely, for consuming alcohol and other drugs, and a wide number of other things that don't have an evolutionary driving force. Yet we feel comfortable regulating many other actions that have much lesser consequences than bringing a life into this world.

    Can any pro- or anti-abortion poster in this thread come up with a single good reason why our government shouldn't simply force both boys and girls to go on mandatory birth control when they hit puberty and only allow those who apply for parenthood permits to try for children? It would bring the number of abortions down to as close to zero as possible, eliminate the controversy over whether the father has a say in a pregnancy, and ideally limit pregnancies to families where the kids are wanted and provided for.

    It's such a simple solution, I don't understand why this is such a divisive issue? Both sides should be united in passing this legislation, a goal that would both satisfy those who believe life begins at conception, and those who believe in the right to the termination of a pregnancy as a victim of rape or if the resulting child would not be properly cared for.

    Who's with me?
     
  6. rhester

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    I don't consider abortion a form of birth control.

    It is simply a 'final solution' to a big screw up.

    Most you guys never mention the times you were scared to death you knocked up some girl.

    Getting a piece is not about starting a family. So if you play with fire and you get burned, there is only one thing left, kill the baby before it is born, you can't afford for it to make it out of the womb.
     
  7. DudeWah

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    I honestly have no opinion on this because I couldn't care any less about this issue.

    I just don't understand why abortion is even this big of a platform. Maybe someone can fill me in...
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Lil Pun correctly answered for me.

    I believe the majority of people who choose to end a pregnancy via abortion do so with a lot more angst than the woman who pops a pill every night before she goes to bed or makes her partner wear a condom.
     
  9. emcitymisfit

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    I truly believe we should err on the side of life, particularly in abortion and death penalty cases.
     
  10. Al Calavicci

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    Pro-lifers don't think it's fair that unborn fetuses get to pass go and collect their jesus without going 'round the board first. Pro-choicers have an itch in their uterus and need the tiny fetus hand to scratch it, but don't have any itches outside of their body, rendering a whole child useless. I can see both sides of the issue.
     
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  11. giddyup

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    How is not wanting an actual child on the way and therefore eliminating it not birth control? No one is talking about 6 or 7 abortions a year, are they?

    ... and the angst is telling us something.
     
  12. Refman

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    Actually, I went to high school with a girl who had 6 abortions by age 20. The doctor told her that her uterus was so scarred after the last one that it was unlikely she could ever conceive again.

    Are these cases rare? Probably...but they do happen.
     
  13. Rocketman95

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    Ah, the intentionally obtuse giddyup, how I've missed ya!

    Yeah, no ****. That for the majority of people, they understand that what they're doing is not ideal and they know it will most likely impact them psychologically for a long time.
     
  14. juicystream

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    Pun posted the stat earlier in this thread. I want to say 78% of abortions were their 1st or 2nd was the stat. That would mean 22% of abortions are 3+, that is too large of a percentage. I can't remember if it was a percentage of abortions, or a percentage of women that have abortions.

    I'm too lazy to go look for the stat to verify beyond my memory, so don't hang on my numbers or the exact wording. Just know the number is still more than any of us want to see.
     

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