Just let Lin turn the ball over more than 4 times and everything will be fine.

Doesn't seem like anyone is cutting when Lin penetrates

So when he gets in there, he runs out of options

 

Yes I saw this. Noticed this in the first game off the bat. In a few possessions he attacked the basket & penetrated & nobody was there so it resulted in a TO.

 

As a pg or any basketball player, you have 3 options when you have the ball. Pass, dribble or shoot. If nobody to pass, why pick up your dribble? Basketball 101 when I was 8 years old way way back my old days.

 

Because you're not on twitter and twitter is for 12 year old tards anyways.

 

He gets stuck in the air too much, you should never go up in the air and then decide who to pass to after, unless maybe you are Lebron who does that shet all the time

 

But at the same time guys need to cut & they need to move around to get open so he can pass to them. Basketball is a team sport so you play off one another to minimize each others weaknesses & play to one anothers strengths. Its a sign that this team is still trying to figure things out with one another. Just like Scott or TD should have not been passing the ball to Omer at the FT line to shoot it. That's just silly.

 

Lol don't worry about the hashtagging. It's just some older, or out of touch people get bothered by it. I'm sure people were annoyed by "lol" when it first came out also.

 

Linsanity only happened under Mike Dantoni's offense without a ball stopper or ISO player (e.g. Melo). The current Rockets doesn't have a ball stopper, so we just need to hire Mike D. then we will see Linsanity again

 

This is true. Both players share the blame - Lin for leaving his feet expecting Tyson Chandler to pop out of the bushes and catch his pass and the rest of the team for not following up on Lin's drive.

It's like falling backwards and no one catches you.

 

Agreed. It is all a process & takes time.

 

The comparison of TO numbers is vague and, frankly, pointless if you fail to distinguish between different kinds of TOs.

These include plain getting stripped bc of failure to protect the ball;
there's getting reached in on but not getting the foul call by the refs;
there's getting an offensive charge bc of trying a floater or eurostep in the lane, instead of a jump-stop that avoids colliding with the defender;
there's the pass that gets intercepted bc it was telegraphed;
there's the pass that didn't make it there bc of good timing but bad delivery, or good delivery but bad timing;
there are perfect passes that receivers simply fumble, and so on.

In short: Not all TOs are equal. The kind that you don't want to fully eliminate are ones that have the potential to result in points on the board (unlike other kinds, like getting stripped for example) but happened because the play was not perfectly executed. These occur in aggressive playmaking -- some are going to fail, but there's no way to avoid these unless you just stop passing entirely, which would be bad. For the sake of discussion, call these the Nash turnovers. He's going to have these just as any good shooter is going to have missed jumpers. It's part of playmaking, and if all these kind of TOs were eliminated, that would be detrimental. It's analogous to shooting -- the only way to not miss shots is to not shoot ever, which obviously is bad. It's about the overall benefits of playmaking outweighing the TOs. It's a matter of cost-benefit. For this kind, the final TO total has to measured against its benefits. Sometimes ppl cite assist to turnover ratio to analyze this.

In addition to the kind cited above, which are unavoidable for aggressive playmaking, Lin has plenty of the plain bad kinds that should be eliminated entirely. Sometimes his TO plays look even worse than his TO stats bc they are plain ugly -- slipping on the floor while trying a eurostep and coughing up the ball, or jumping in the air before knowing where to pass the ball, for example. There should be as few of these kinds as possible. The cost-benefit of plays that tend to result in these kinds of TOs is low to zilch.

That's why you cannot simply compare Nash's TOs numbers with Lin's -- not all TOs are equal. If you're just comparing numbers, you're missing the context and types of those turnovers. The stats about TOs that are available to the public are very rudimentary since they treat the broad class of turnovers as a single thing, and they obviously are not. The TO stats are a useful reference pt but still a rather crude measuring instrument.

 

Some interesting blog posts in that vein:

Turnovers By Type
http://www.hickory-high.com/?p=3209

Playing Fast And Loose
http://www.hickory-high.com/?p=3055

 

OMG thank you for these two links I have been searching for them everywhere. Much appreciated!

 

I'm 20 and I think hash tags in a sentence are idiotic

 

When calculating TOV% is the value for field goal attempt for the team or player.

 

They used to boo Nash when he was with Dallas.

Don't have a problem with point guard turnovers.. It's quite common with young point guards. Lin hasn't even had a single full nba season yet.