Good News: Koreas Agree to Peaceful Nuke Resolution

yes we will see how long this lasts. i think about 25 different personalities live in kim jong-il's head.

 

Here's an interesting profile of Kim.

news profile

Apparently, he has powers that most nations know nothing about.

 

"We are also forced to consider the possibility that Kim may attempt to robo-meld with other members of the Axis of Evil, forming a MegaMecha-Optima-Robosoldier. Kim would make a powerful right arm—or even a torso—for such a mechanism."

We are sooooo screwed...thanks George.

Where are Robert Smith & Sidney Poitier when you need them?

 

Did Orville really die, or did he dye his hair?

 

Kim's b*stard son?

 

Good!

Can we leave now?

 

Well, which is it?

South and North Korea agreed early Friday to peacefully resolve the international standoff over North Korea's nuclear programs, according to a joint declaration released after Cabinet-level talks.

Or

Officials said late Thursday they made some progress in the areas of security and increasing cooperation between the two countries.

But negotiations bogged down over the South's insistence that the joint statement address the North's nuclear programs.

In a separate statement released by the South Korean government, negotiators said they were unsuccessful in drawing out a compromise from the North.

"Although we have not been able to draw out a more progressive position on North Korea's nuclear issue, we have sufficiently delivered our and the international community's concern on the nuclear issue," it said.

 

It means N. Korea wants more bribes...er compromises from the US government.

 

I dont believe that they really had any intention in starting up their nuke build up. I mean, it seems that it was planned out only to get more resoureces from the United States. It's a scam!

 

This is, IMO, why it's so important to ensure that Saddam never gets nuclear weapons. I don't care if we prevent that with inspectors, a coup, exile or a war we should never let him get them.

Korea has been blackmailing the U.S. with Nuclear weapons for a few years now. We can't attack Korea because they have the Bomb and any hostility toward them could (and probably would) result in a nuclear explosion (and, of course, the U.S. would be blamed). If Saddam gets nukes he'll blackmail us (or Israel or Russia or China or whoever) as well.

N. Korea is also a great example of why "negotiations" aren't very practical in this case. Peace negotiations work great when both parties have legitimate grievences and have a sincere desire to resolve the conflict. When you deal with crazy dictators like Saddam they will take advantage of any delay they can and try to twist opinion in any way they can to keep the truth hidden as they aren't <i>sincere</i>.

 

N. Korean diplomacy was relatively warm with the US and the Asian neighbors a couple years ago. Kim only raised hell when Bush called his country an axis of evil, denounced him publicly as some sort of scumbag, and refused all American diplomatic access starting when Bush entered office. Kim was receptive initially to talks about the uranium, but Bush still refused to talk and only decided to on the condition that the nuclear program was closed.

What I don't understand is why Bush was so obstinate on refusing diplomatic access when diplomacy had to be used sooner or later. Plus, with most of our naval forces in the Persian Gulf, strong arming "diplomacy" in this case was a transparent bluff that the US didn't have to make.

 

Well, you see, Invisible Fan, there is all the really important and very secret information that the administration has, and they couldn't dare share it or tell a humble citizen like yourself about it, see, because it's so important and the sources of the information would be compromised (I think this means the sources would be sodomized if their information saw the light of day). Does that make sense? ... Seems like it made more sense last time I told it.

Anyway, this really important and very secret information logically leads to the diplomacy of labeling a country "evil" when it was otherwise open to talking with us in a normal, civil way. Hope that clears things up. ...

 

I see. Now, I appreciate you telling me this secret information, but I didn't want a one-way ticket to Guantanimo Bay. What's your seat...window or aisle?

 

we won't strong arm diplomacy over there because of china. also, the us wants china to start taking some political responsibility over in the far east and exercising power over north korea.

also bush is right about north korea. they are a failing rouge state who's sole purpose is militarization. christ, 1/3 of their population is enlisted in the army and they had an active nuclear weapons program while their population is starving to death. there is no reason for bush to beat around the bush with north korea. i mean if he was nice and polite it doesn't mean they really would have stopped their nuke program. if you think that then you're nieve

 

Well, your choice is kneeling in ailse or kneeling in ailse.

But once you get here, you'll love the dope gear we get to wear! Check the shades and the stylin red hat!


what's that? how did I learn to type so well with these mittens on? Who said I'm using my fingers!

 

The posturing by N. Korea is simply a result of Kim Il Jong's perception of the West's resolve. The man thinks a leader such as Bill Clinton represents the majority view in America. Clinton's 'threat' (If you power up certain Nuclear facilities, we will bomb you', said the traitor/murderer Clinton,.....not suprising, since he had just traded our old Minuteman system to the Chinese for campaign money in '96!!!) He (Jong) attempts to force Bush's hand, using 8 year old information, and then, miraculously, discovers that it's NOT such a good idea. The Chinese concur, and N. Korea takes a step back! Gee,....What a surprise!

Jeeeeesh, do I have to explain EVERYTHING you dullards,...wake up!

The Clinton legacy can STILL be the foundation for WW3. It will be like a parent spanking his child for playing w/ matches

 

It's just another example of America can't do everything. Must we always pull ourselves to brinksmanship before we get things done? Now China's and South Korea's role in this is just as important as the US's. N. Korea having a nuke program is serious, but the fact is Bush has always been cold in the diplomatic channels even before the uranium incident.

Had a better precedent been set, our partners in the region would be more unified in our objectives in containing and disarming N. Korea.

Given N. Korea's history of theatrics, this isn't about talking nice. It's about avoiding a mess that could've been avoided by doing something we should've done all along.

 

He (Jong) attempts to force Bush's hand, using 8 year old information, and then, miraculously, discovers that it's NOT such a good idea.

Huh?

North Korea: We're building nukes.

Bush: We're not negotiating until you stop building nukes.

North Korea: We're building nukes.

Bush: Well, we'll talk - but no negotiations.

North Korea: We're building nukes.

Bush: OK, let's negotiate.

North Korea: We're building nukes.

Bush: We'll give you aid if you stop building nukes.

North Korea: We're building nukes.

Bush: We'll give you security guarantees if you stop building nukes.

North Korea: OK, let's talk.

Yup, looks like Bush held firm there! At the end of the day, North Korea will likely have everything it started with a month ago, plus aid and security guarantees and will have lost nothing. Exactly how would that be a bad move on North Korea's part?

(BTW, I'm not criticizing Bush here -- North Korea had all the cards to play, just as they did in 1994. The US isn't willing to fight North Korea, both for domestic reasons and because of dangers to South Korea, and N. Korea is using that to their maximum advantage.)