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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Believe, Jan 22, 2003.

  1. Believe

    Believe Member

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    Getting a 1st round pick for ourselves?

    Yao, Cato
    Griffin, Taylor, Morris
    Posey, Nachbar
    Francis, Mobley
    TJ Ford?, Norris


    EXPLOSIVE!!! Cat 6th man!!! Championship!!!


    (TJ Ford = Less turnovers for SF)
     
  2. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

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    I miss Gregonomics.
     
  3. gtatkinson

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    Why not run a three guard lineup that allows Steve and Cat to be on the floor at the same time, on opposite wings?? Both of them are good enough at boxing out bigger men and getting rebounds. And now, with zone defenses there's no need to worry about the defensive end.

    Make Posey the 6th man, Steve can still be the backup PG, and with Maddox on the roster, Moochie is expendable.

    Imagine Starting 5:
    Ford, Francis, Mobley, EG, Yao!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. RIET

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    Why? because maybe a pure PG who can slash to the hole, make a open jump shot, and distribute the ball is exactly what this team doesn't need?

    I think Francis and Mobley are great players but adding a natural PG with PG skills that doesn't look to shoot is exactly what this team needs to maintain some consistency.

    TJ Ford probably won't be turning pro this upcoming year but might be available the year after.

    If there's any doubt about his size or ability to score, he may drop.

    We are a borderline Western Conference playoff team which is right around the 14 th pick. In 2 years, we may still hover around there. A trade up to the top 10 is not out of the question.

    Lots of variables and probably not going to happen but who wouldve thought a playoff team 2 years ago would get the #1 pick this year.
     
  5. Roc Paint

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    We don't need to get younger, we need to get wiser.
     
  6. RIET

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    Sometimes age has nothing to do with wisdom.

    Our guards are very talented but wise would not be the first word I would use to describe them.

    You can be in the league 20 years and still act like a fool. John Salley acts like a fool every night and he's not even playing anymore.
     
  7. silvercatt

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    So how do you explain this.

    Yao, 22 old rookie already as smart as an old fox.

    Shaq, 31, a married man w/ two children still as stupid as ever.
    He should be thankful that God blessed him with the size. Otherwise he would had a tough life.
     
  8. Michael19P

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    "It's a "Jump to Conclusions Mat"! You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO!"

    "That is the worst idea I've ever heard!"

    "Yes, this is horrible, this idea!"





    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Roc Paint

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    What I meant, is that we need to play smarter basketball. This team doesn't need to make any trades to get over the playoff hump. If this team would just implement Rudy's teachings, and stop with the Showtime for a half a second, everything would be fine. This team needs a serious lesson in TEAM basketball. And this one is on the players not the coach. There is too much talent on one end, and too much experience on the other for this not to be working. Is that better for all of you debaters out there?

    Let me add, that I do think we are heading in the right direction though.
    Go Rockets!! :)
     
  10. Rockets2K

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    any Rockets fan with a half a brain already knows that 3 guard lineup=crap...
    you sir, are a dumbass...:(

    no need for defense???????? omg! my above statement rings true once again..if it wasnt for our near-league leading defense, do you have any idea where we would be right now????? in the frickin lottery! it is the only thing keeping us above.500.


    cool....MichealP with the Office Space reference...almost as common as Simpsons references......woo hoo ;)
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    I like this idea. It's not stupid at all. What's dumb is continuing to run our offense through 2 shooting guards, one who is trying to play the point and one who takes too many bad shots. Again, the Iverson example is a good one. That team has been much more successful with a true point guard, Eric Snow, runnning the offense.

    Why do you think teams like Indiana and San Antonio let guys with no jump shot and little athleticism (Tinsley and Parker) run the offense? Because they are smart, savvy players who make the right decisions and get the ball to the right palyers. They limit turnovers and run the right plays.

    And if you don't agree, you don't have to put down the person who said it with stupid comments and name-calling.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Except I dont agree with starting Mobley at the 3.
     
  13. Sane

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    Micheal19P,

    It's so phenominally strange that you should say that. At PRECISELY 12:13AM MY TIME yesterday, my sister told me about that part in the movie. I've seent the whole movie but that 15 minutes of it, so she explained it to me. BTW, that part is hilarious.


    About this whole idea, unless we're getting Lebron James, there's absolutely NO reason to get younger.
     
  14. gtatkinson

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    8 Assists, 26 turnovers.

    Outrebounded them and made it to the free throw line 43 times, yet still got blown out.

    But R2K and M19P, being the astute basketball visionaries that you are, obviously can see things much more clearly than we of normal basketball intelligence. I guess having a true PG to distribute the shots more evenly between Francis, Mobley and the rest of the team would be a bad thing.

    And you guys can clearly see ahead that the defensive stalwort that is Mo Taylor is the key to our "near-league leading" defense, and so giving him more time on the floor against the likes Dirk Nowitski and Tim Duncan is the key to our future success; and what, with that offensive repetouir of his, the very threat of the ball being in his hands just opens up the offense for Yao and the guards up top.

    Who am I to argue with this briliant logic?

    Look, TJ Ford's not coming out, and we're not getting him, so the point is moot, but someone throws out the ridiculous idea of benching Mobley in favor of a rookie, I will offer an alternative. If you don't like it, offer you're own idea. Or go back to watching Office Space and stay off the message board.
     
  15. Michael19P

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    Well, If you had read YOUR OWN ORIGINAL POST, you would see that I was not commenting upon getting a true PG, moving steve to the 2, and benching Mobley. I was commenting upon your brilliant idea to run a three G line up with ford, mobley, and francis :rolleyes: . The idea of a three G line up has been discussed ad nauseum on this board and the general consensus is--it isn't a good thing for this team, or really any NBA team. Mobley has enough problems guarding some 2's in this league; I wouldn't want to see him consistently matched up against 3's.

    Next time atleast quote yourself accurately.
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    as was I ya stupid gimp....

    I specifically said that the 3 guard lineup sucks!!!!!! everyone here that has seen the 3 guard lineup in actioncan attest to it...except you...moron...
     
  17. Believe

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    People, I was just asking if it was possible to get an extra pick and what we would have to give up to get it.

    It doesn't have to be Ford. Ridnour would be nice... I just wanted to know if it was possible.

    BTW, you can keep that 3 guard line up crap. Not interested!
     
  18. ROXTXIA

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    I like your optimism but I don't think it's gonna happen. Steve and Cat have that ingrained playground style. They just don't have basketball brains. Even when he plays well, Steve throws the ball away constantly. 7 TOs in the Lakers game. I could blame the inferior Rockets teammates, but a lot of those passes were just lazy, stupid tosses.

    I hope they can change, I really do, but I honestly believe we'll have an offseason trade. This team isn't gonna cut it.
     
  19. Michael19P

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    am I the "stupid gimp"/"moron" :confused:

    I think we are agreeing with eachother and disagreeing with Gtatkinson. . .

    He is the one that wanted to move mobley to the 3, steve to the 2 and bring in a new point (TJ).

    I think we, and pretty much everyone else here, realize the problems of such an arrangement, as I discussed in my last post.
     
  20. MysticRyder

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