Griifin is just 20. but the guy can't shoot.....he should go back to college and work on that Arc.....McGrady-Kobe-K.G.....all had a better shot than him when they came out from High School....Jefferson the guy we traded away ...is one of the FG% leaders....what a BAD trade!!! hope he somehow figures out that he has a problem.
Well, I'm not ready to give up on Eddie, or even admit it was a bad trade. However, he has one of the ugliest line drive shots I've seen in the NBA. Amazing that the scouts never noticed this minor detail.
Golly gee....the guy has one bad game and you're all over him. Tell ya what, y not check back on his performance over the course of this season and you'll notice definite improvement in his game. i.e. he's starting to jack up way less three's and is takin the ball inside more. Plus, you're comparing him to McGrady, Kobe and Garnett who are all primary scorers on their teams. Griffen is not.
Its been mentioned before but its worth mentioning again -- had Mo not gone down last season, Griffen probably wouldn't have seen time period until this season. He wasn't acquired so he could come in and dominate right off the bat -- we knew it would take some time and it is. So be it. I have seen nothing from Griffen to give cause for alarm -- he plays hard every night, hustles, rebounds like a fiend, blocks shots, and really works on defense. His game is coming along slowly but surely -- I have no doubt in my mind that in another season or two, Eddie will develop into a productive 4.
geez, didn't you guys seem him get totally decked in the previous game against the Lakers... I'm amazed he's walking ... maybe that probably has something to do with it...
lol, what?? He has been doing that shot for a while now.... maybe that incident in the Lakers game will help him in someway...
What we don't realize is that Griffin is in the same age group as Curry, Chandler, Kwame, Diop, and Stoudamire. He's younger than one or two of them I think. Consider him a highschooler. For highschoolers, the first season is just getting your body in shape, and getting your mentality right. The second season is learning how to play the game, and what your position on the court is. The 3rd season is where you show what you've learned, and start picking up things that seperate you from the rest of the group. I think Amare is having the best highschooler rookie season in HISTORY. We can't compare. Amare is physically ready for the NBA. Next year will be hisr eal test year. This year, he works hard, and in the offseason, he puts on muscle. That's when we see what we got.
wat? u ask a guy who we dun need him to perform on the offensive end but the guy who we need on the defensive end to go back to college just because he can't shoot with an arc? hm....
Gary Payton and Eric Snow did not learn how to shoot a jumper until they were about 6-7 year veterans. Even now, they are not very good perimeter shooters at all. However, they are some of the better point guards in the league. What Eddie will need to bring is defensive intensity, rebounding, and a lot of intangibles. He's shown a lot of promise, and he should turn into a good role player if not more. He's also been working on his post game, which has not looked bad at all!! I love his game and he has a lot of upside.
I think Eddie is not cofident enough. often times he will throw ridiculously off air ball while he was wide open. That has to be something esle other than shooting touch for a NBA player. You hardly see Eddie smiles even after a great play, and I know that wasnt because of his poise. If Eddie can lighten up, relax, he is gonna be real good. Well this is only his 2nd year, some players do come along slowly but explode exponetially.
Anyone who cannot admit that the Griffin/Jefferson trade a terrible deal for H-town needs to get a reality check. Maybe Eddie will be good in 3-4 years, but Jefferson has been such an impact player for NJ, this year in particular... BTW, it was Jefferson (not Griffin) who received confirmation that he'll be playing in the Got Milk Rookie/Sophomore game in ATL. We need to all admit that this particular trade was a gamble that Rudy T. & the Rockets organization has had to live with... especially since Griffin's poor performance has been consistent (not just a bad game here or there) over the entire season. I'm hoping we won't end up with another Buck Johnson. Hmmm, I'm wonder how K.T. is doing in Philly.
Anyone who cannot admit that the Griffin/Jefferson trade was a terrible deal for H-town needs to get a reality check. Maybe Eddie will be good in 3-4 years, but Jefferson has been such an impact player for NJ, this year in particular... BTW, it was Jefferson (not Griffin) who received confirmation that he'll be playing in the Got Milk Rookie/Sophomore game in ATL. We need to all admit that this particular trade was a gamble that Rudy T. & the Rockets organization has had to live with... especially since Griffin's poor performance has been consistent (not just a bad game here or there) over the entire season. I'm hoping we won't end up with another Buck Johnson. Hmmm, I'm wonder how K.T. is doing in Philly.
i do not think it was a bad trade, Jefferson is ideal for the game the nets play, run and dunk and all. He really plays good there,but i think playing with the type of player kidd is helps him. Griffin is younger, and houston plays a different type of game the nets play, griffin is defensive better than jefferson. And he and ming made houston one of the best defensive teams. And his offens will grow. just wait a couple of year, Garnett wasn't great from the start, neither was mcgrady, or kobe or dirk, but do you think people in la said, well that divac bryant trade was stupid, or people in dallas, well to bad we traded trailor that dirk kid does not have the stats robert has
Jefferson would not nearly be anywhere near as effective on the Rockets as he is on the Nets. Anyone who doesn't realize that needs to get a reality check. Besides, what makes you so sure the Rockets would have even drafted Jefferson with the 13th pick? It's possible that the only reason they took him was to trade him. Also, it wasn't a gamble. Where do you get that from? Eddie Griffin was the #1 pick in most early mock drafts before the hype started surrounding the high school kids and people starting having doubts about Eddie's character after getting in fights with teammates. I doubt there was anyone in the league who believed Jefferson would be better than Griffin, so you can't fault the Rockets for making the trade. The Nets probably didn't even believe Jefferson was better than Griffin, the only reason they made the trade was to add the depth that three picks would bring them. The Rockets didn't need all those draft picks, so they traded for a better prospect. So, what's the problem? Basically, if you can show me a post of yours a year and a half ago, where you were critical of the trade when it actually happened, then maybe I can take your post more seriously. Otherwise, you can just file this under "hindsight being 20-20."
Thank you, DCkid. Well said. Correcting the arc of Eddie's shot is a very achievable goal. Adding another 15 pounds of muscle to his frame will be harder but still very achievable. There. Now we've solved Fast Eddie's problems. He's a 250-pound rebounding machine with arc on his shot. Incidentally, does anybody remember how flat rookie Karl Malone's shot was until he worked on correcting the arc?
Even Aaron Williams looks good in New Jersey. Anyone who can run fast and jump high will look good in New Jersey. Jefferson would be another Shandon Anderson if he weren't in New Jersey. Eddie Griffin would be averaging the same if not better than Jefferson if he were on the Nets with Kidd. Besides, we'll see who'll have rings by the end of their careers.
I like Eddie too but we have to be objective. It hasn't JUST been 1 bad game. He has these type of shooting nights quite OFTEN as illustrated by his 39% fg % and 63% ft! The fg % is extremely low of a PF. This low % can be attributed to his long jumpers which he needs to stop shooting. That is not his strength at this point and we do not need him to shoot those ill advised shots. As I said time and time before, we need to acquire a PF that does the dirty work for us to advance past the 1st round this year. Griffen will be a decent player in the future but I do not think his style fits PF status. He is more of a small foward (Rashard Lewis like) without the jumper. I REALLY hope we get someone soon. It does not seem that we ahve roles for our players. Everyone wants to be a outside shooter. Sad thing is, I think we are not smart enough to figure it out ahead and it may take a year of getting whooped before we change.
But then hindsight is usually accurate. Are you agreeing with the premise that the Rockets should have taken Jefferson instead? That's not what you appear to be saying.