Serena Williams vs. Victoria Azarenka (no homo).. but what a MATCH

Well, I realize that this is not about facts. Someone is irrational. Interesting.

 

she definitely seems dominant, and this isnt' a race thing as there are many of her race nad other races that just look more feminine, etc. Just from her body type, and even facial structure its all just so buff, even her sister venus there is no doubt, but serena really i feel like it is so taboo to discuss it but even looking at the front page of espn tennis section she looks like a dude straight up. And she is so much more powerful than the rest on the tour, yes i've seen butch women and field hockey ones, but in terms of even the actual face. As I said , with her sister venus, tehre is no doubt about her. But with serena, i am so tempted to see them do a test like they did with that one olympic racer. Everyone cried foul, but they found out she was born with male organs or something, correct? I am all for freedom socially, but in sport it can be a severe advantage in body type.

Outside of that she seems the most capable and dominant one with only her standing infront of herself when needing to win(just mentally). But i just can't help to wonder when i see her everytime!

 

*arkoe notes it's not ok for ATW to support his fellow German.

 

LOL you didn't have a good point to begin with. I do not think she is the greatest ever. But this really destroyed any credibility for you. You think she is not seen as the greatest ever because she is black? Not because she is not even close to having spend the most time at the nr1 position or to having the most GS titles. You are the only one mentioning race in this discussion SJC only used facts.

All the facts you gave are meaningless, But SJC already adressed that. Also brilliant saying that she would have 20 GS if she didn't get beating by her sister or somebody else. that is like saying Andy Murray would have 8 grands slams in the last 2 years if not for losing to a couple of different players.

And who cares if she has the strongest weapon in tennis. Steve Nash is the best passer in basketbal (maybe) but nobody would think about him being the greatest ever because he also has a lot of flaws.

Furthermore saying she would have won so much more if she didn't get injured also doesn't matter. She did get injured. Apperantly she cannot stay healthy playing like that.

 

This paragraph (based on the quoted post) is full of much unintentional comedy. And then it closes with a Graf "unfateful" stabbing.

She wasn't the greatest but I sure loved watching Hingis play.

 

5'10 161lbs

That's a man, man!

 

Hingis and seles are better players than Serena Williams? That just show your bias. I think women's tennis has evolved in the last twenty years. All these girls now days are huge, and if you aren't it is just hard to compete. I am not going to say Serena is better than graf, but you can't deny how good Serena is.

 

Seriously you need to work on your reading. The post you quoted was arguing that Serena is better than Hingis and Seles.

 

Serena is the GOAT WTA tennis player, but doesn't care about the sport. She hasn't cared about it since she was 17 dominating the tour. If she would have played as much as Sharapova has, she would have always been #1, aside from injury times.

When Serena is in shape and has been playing warm up tournaments, there is not a woman who can beat her. Period.

 

AroundTheWorld Advantage In/ 40-love, SkyrimOwnsAll not so much....

 

While this is an interesting discussion, the key question here is whether or not Steffi Graf thinks Matt Schaub is an "elite" quarterback.

 

The post you quoted was calling out ATW for saying they were both better...you then respond to that post by saying there is no way they are better. So, you and Air Langhi agreed. But you still tried to argue with him.

You also did that earlier with ATW when you thought he wrote that others had more power than Serena when he actually wrote that Serena had the power advantage.

It will help you overall to slow down and really read what is written. Otherwise you will further be written off as nonsensical.

 

You really think this? You really think non-blacks don't like ANY black athletes in the United States? You think no white Texan or football fans (for example) like Arian Foster? Andre Johnson? Jonathon Joseph? You think no white people like James, Durant, Wade, Paul, etc.?

This post of your negates any credibility you might have or are trying to establish.

I generally root for Serena, but depending on sho she is playing, I may root for the other person (white, non-Americans). Am I racist on those days?

I admire Federer's greatness and I enjoy watching him play. If I root for him over Donald Young (for example), am I racist?