No. supply is the number of teachers/equipment or schools if the demand is education. The greater the demand for education the greater the demand for teachers/schools and therefore the greater the supply of teachers/schools (barring some external force such as government) because they are in demand. You should rly stop throwing out the 'stupid' claims. NO you have failed to suggest a single solution for the education problem in the US. Saying 'public schools should be better' is not a solution, which is what you just did.
The first paragraph, of the first post I made in this thread. A largely egalitarian educational system is the most effective way to achieve an even level of education regardless of regional location, social class, race, etc. Similar to Finland. The results born from a system they implemented in the 1970's are not unique to smaller populations. The same principles can be used for a MUCH needed reform of the current system.
Brandyon - you're new here, so you may not know this. tallanvor does not argue fairly. Even if you use rational arguments to prove a point, he's incapable of acknowledging any point that doesn't come directly from the Republican party playbook. He's an ideologue, pure and simple, and as such, he's incapable of arguing honestly.
Yea, I've noticed as much. I can't help myself though. Once I found out that these were not trolls, but in fact real people expressing actual opinions I became way too interested. It's like trapping a rat but seeing him create an escape route out of nothing. It's just fun to keep boxing them in.
IF you make it that any private school that accept any vouchers have to accept any students into it's schools, no questions asked, then I support the voucher system. Also, portion of the money from all vouchers MUST be set aside to provide transportation to students within 100 mile radius. If that is the system in place, I will support vouchers. Otherwise, why should my tax dollars go to supporting the yuppies that want to live in gentrofied areas but don't want their kids to go to school with the kids 5 miles down the street? I'm ok with private schools to run things like a private business, if that's the case, then DON'T accept government money.
Condi had a pretty ideologically awesome speech...except for the fact when she mentions themes about rebuilding and repairing. ...from what? Obama's stimulus plans and drone wars? Or Killing bin Laden and starting fresh? The good ol' amnesia gun still works. <object width="640" height="480"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"></param><param name="movie" value="https://www.facebook.com/v/459984294021803"></param><embed src="https://www.facebook.com/v/459984294021803" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="1" width="640" height="480"></embed></object> 1) K-12 education should be treated as an inelastic resource. Brush up your Cliffs Notes, and think about it... 2) Successful school institutions aren't necessarily scalable.
People really need to stop taking Microecon 101 and applying the supply/demand framework for everything. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/COf2bQEQ7Zw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
please by all means try and defend your fellow liberals blatant wiff on supply and demand (I believe he claimed supply was the students. haha). If only we had a greater supply of students we could meet this demand for education.... Sure they are
So you are ok with my suggestions that if you have a voucher system, you must accept and keep any students that want to be in there? Like I've said, if that's the case I don't oppose the voucher system. But it must be set up so that a school also can't just enroll then fail out the students, if they're in there, they're in there till they're 18 or chose to leave themselves.
Nothing is necessarily (might want to look that word up) scalable. Schooling is a particularly difficult problem because of geographic barriers. Who will want to build an adequate school in the ghetto? How will poor families get their kids to distant schools and back? If you actually want to provide equitable access, school vouchers would increase the marginal cost of an education. Your food stamps analogy actually works both ways. Look up food deserts.
This demand for education--- is it derived demand depending on labour market conditions? is it effective demand? Does education of one's forebears correlate with one's present ambition towards getting education? Is it a virtuous spillover chain? Inquiring minds want to know how far you've studied your supply/demand dynamics because, quite frankly, the Econ 101 framework doesn't work so well here. For your consideration--- http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~oreo/research/compositions/do_dropouts_drop_out_too_soon.pdf Do dropouts drop out too soon? Wealth, health and happiness from compulsory schooling☆ Philip Oreopoulos University of Toronto, National Bureau of Economic Research, Canadian Institute for Advanced Research, Canada Huh. Demand 102 needed?
Why not, either make it not exclusive or don't take public money. That way truly in demand schools can and should expand. You shouldn't take public money if the school is not truly for the entire public imo. I'd be ok if they can't do it because of school size restricts it, but then they should just make admission be based on a lottery system, completely random from pool of interested applicants. Either that or make admissions follow some sort of government guideline to ensure equal opportunity to all those that want to go to the school. Just to add, I'm not against a voucher system, I just don't think we should be subsidizing private schools for people who live in a rich neighborhood but are zoned to a school they don't like so they go "priviate". And seeing how admissions at some of these private schools operate, I'm not sure public money should go for paying for them if they insist on keeping their exclusivity. Lastly, I don't want to hear those from these private schools kids complaining about the fields are really even when it comes to affirmative action because so many of them make the selective choice that going to a disadvantaged school has a negative impact on future prospects.