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Chris Simms' NFL Future

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by The Truth, Jan 19, 2003.

  1. The Truth

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    Everybody seems to think that just because this kids name is Simms, he's a guarenteed first-round franchise pick. Actually, it is quite the opposite. Maybe if his name was Staubach or Bradshaw, this argument would hold water, but unfortunately his name is Simms, and Phil Simms sucked. LT's defense handed him his Super bowl XXI MVP award by keeping him on the field 43 minutes out of 60, and scored 1/3 of the pts that year.

    Here's what will probably happen;

    He'll be drafted in the 5th or 6th round by the Irving Cowboys! Here's how it will go down;

    Phil to Bill: Hey bill, how about drafting my boy? I don't want him moping around the house because he fell to the 9th round.
    Bill to Phil: Sorry Phil, but the kid has folded in every big game he's ever played in. He's not NFL material.
    P to B: I know, I know, but i didn't mean as a player. Make him your QB coach. Ray Perkins did the same thing with Mike Shula coming out of Alabama about 15 years ago (and the young Mr. Shula had a much college career than the young Mr. Simms)
    B to P: Hmmmmmmm, let me check with The Joker, err, I mean Jerry. (This line may or may not happen, but that's another thread)

    Longhornfan, don't let your denial run full circle by pimping this guy as a franchise,....he's not.
     
  2. Free Agent

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    He looked great in the senior bowl throwing the longest interception return for a touchdown in the history of the game.
     
  3. The Truth

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I hadn't heard about it. What a classic!!!!!!!

    ANY NFL cornerback would be DROOLING at the sight of Chris Simms turning to throw to the flat.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Yep,

    Same ole Simms....locked in on a receiver and threw it to him only to have the defensive back that was standing RIGHT there step in and intercept it and run it all the way back.

    I guess Greg Davis was protecting him after all.

    DD
     
  5. VesceySux

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    Here we go again. :)

    While I seriously don't believe he'll be a first round pick (unlike the Cat, who thinks he'll go Top 15 :rolleyes: ), some team in the second round will most likely take a chance on him. My prediction: Chicago in the second round (freeing them up to take a defensive stud in the first round).

    I had 2 photographers shoot the Senior Bowl for me (we're making Senior Bowl relic cards this year... again). I'm curious to see if they got any shots of the Simms interception play. I didn't see the replay, so I don't know how close the defender was to Simms' "locked-on" receiver. If I get a good shot, perhaps I'll post it here.
     
  6. giddyup

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    Simms tried to force the ball through, not one, but two defenders who were right there in position. Is that cocky or what.... maybe dumb?
     
  7. Timing

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    :D

    It was really funny to hear him on the sidelines explain what happened. The defensive back cut off the receiver!!! Ha...
     
  8. mateo

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    I'm with Vesceysux on this one, someone will take a chance on Simms in an early (but not first) round.

    His Senior Bowl performance may not have been stellar, but Casserly was on 610 this week talking about how its the interview process, the physicals, and the drills that scouts mainly focus on. I doubt Simms' stock dropped as a result of that pick.
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    I'll never understand why people seem to take so much joy in someone's failures, especially someone who seems to be a nice and classy kid like Simms.

    It's pretty ****ing annoying.
     
  10. Major

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    What's truly annoying is when Simms "fans" blame every one of his mistakes / bad performances the last several years on the o-line, the running game, receivers, coaches, or whomever else. Apparently to them, it's OK to bash anyone on the team except Simms -- I guess the other players on the team just aren't classy enough to be criticism-proof. But, if someone actually criticizes the QB -- they must just be a hater or a fake fan. Gotta love the hypocrisy.

    The funniest thing about the INT was his quote immediately after, when he told his coaches "I thought I had him". Of course he thought he had him, because he doesn't see the defensive players around him.

    He'll still go in the first round. He had a good week of practice (his specialty :)), and impressed lots of people from what they were saying on ESPN. I bet someone in the lower-first-round with a veteran QB (like Oakland or Green Bay) takes him and sits him for a year or two until their QBs retire. Probably the best thing for him anyway.
     
  11. DrewP

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    Yep, its pretty sad.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    I think it's fine to criticize Simms or anyone else on the team or coaching staff. If you don't think Simms has had more than his fair share of criticism, you're delusional. I heard people at the A&M game criticize when he made good plays, that's how bad it is/was.

    Simms isn't perfect, but neither is Mack Brown, Major Applewhite (who, laughably at your post, never gets any slack for his poor performances because of the players that surrounded him), or anyone else on the team.

    At this point, it's not even the ridiculous amount of criticism he's received since he entered UT, it's the joy that many seem to take out of seeing him fail. It's called karma and I hope it bites y'all in the ass.
     
  13. Major

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    I think it's fine to criticize Simms or anyone else on the team or coaching staff. If you don't think Simms has had more than his fair share of criticism, you're delusional.

    Sure, he's gotten plenty of criticism. He's also far gotten more media coverage (positive coverage - ESPN/SI articles, etc) than any other QB in the country, even though he wasn't nearly as good as some of the others during the last two seasons. He gets more good than he deserves and more bad than he deserves. That's the result of having a famous dad. He knew that coming to UT.

    It's called karma and I hope it bites y'all in the ass.

    Talking about karma and then wishing ill on others simulatenously. Classic. :)
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    Classic, yup. :rolleyes: I just like to see people get what's coming to them. I think wishing failure on someone who's done absolutely nothing to you personally is absolutely despicable and deserving of the same. Now save the next smartass post about how none of these idiots who like to see Simms fail have never done anything personally to me.

    I don't understand how Simms being put in the media spotlight more than others even though he's not as good as some means that he should take his abuse and shut up. Is it his fault that there's media appeal to the son of a two time Super Bowl winner? I fail to grasp how his media attention makes it OK to unfairly bash him more than other players and/or coaches.
     
  15. Major

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    Simms isn't perfect, but neither is Mack Brown, Major Applewhite (who, laughably at your post, never gets any slack for his poor performances because of the players that surrounded him), or anyone else on the team.

    As far as Applewhite, he got plenty of criticism for games like Nebraska '99 and K-State '99 (6 turnovers, I think?). The difference was that we were barely a top-25 team then playing top-10 teams / national title type teams. Losing was not surprising - we didn't have a top 5 defense or spectacular special teams. More importantly, there was no constant theme to focus criticism on (not looking at 2nd receivers, reading defenses, INTs returned for TDs, lack of passing yards in big games, etc).

    Of course he didn't take much criticism for games like NC State or Stanford, because the offense didn't suck in those games (300+ yards passing in each). Similarly, Simms didn't take any criticism for TT '02, and rightfully so.
     
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    You're kidding me right? You criticized him to me after that game.

    Major and Simms have had one extremely bad game a piece, OU 2000 and CU 2001, respectively. I'm not here to argue who's a better QB, I think Major was. Of course, he won't be making millions of dollars in the NFL either. I'm commenting more on the lack of respect that Simms has received all through his career at UT.
     
  17. Major

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    I think wishing failure on someone who's done absolutely nothing to you personally is absolutely despicable and deserving of the same.

    Then you're in deep trouble with all the crap you were saying about Kobe and other Lakers on Friday night.

    I don't understand how Simms being put in the media spotlight more than others even though he's not as good as some means that he should take his abuse and shut up.

    Who said he should shut up? He can say whatever he wants. I will criticize where I see fit. Just because lots of other people criticize him doesn't mean I suddenly won't.
     
  18. Major

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    Major and Simms have had one extremely bad game a piece, OU 2000 and CU 2001, respectively.

    Major had at least 3 bad games that I can remember off the top of my head -- Nebraska and K-State, along with OU '00.

    Simms had his share as well - 5 times this year under 200 yards. Leading the offense to a #80 ranking mid-season. OU '02, OU '01, CU '01, A&M '01 all come to mind instantly. Just because we win doesn't mean the QB had a good game.

    Never mind, this isn't even worth it. Keep believing everyone hates Simms if it makes you feel better.
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    You think I'm serious when I trash talk during NBA games? If Kobe (or any other player I didn't like had a career ending injury), I wouldn't come in here and laugh like many of Simms haters would.
     
  20. Smokey

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    That is freaking hilarious.
     

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