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Condi Rice calls out Obama's foreign affairs failure

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Well done, Condi. Dead on...

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/29/condoleezza-rice-americas-voice-muted-world-affair/

    Condoleezza Rice: America’s voice ‘muted’ in world affairs

    TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the voice of the United States in world affairs “has been muted” under President Obama, creating a chaotic and dangerous security environment.

    Miss Rice, who speaks Wednesday night to the Republican National Convention, sought to tout Mitt Romney’s foreign policy credentials.

    She told “CBS This Morning” that Mr. Romney “would understand American exceptionalism and would not be afraid to lead from the front.” The election is about “the future of American leadership” in the world, she said, and U.S. policy on Syria has been ineffective.

    Asked what she thinks Mr. Obama has done wrong, the former Bush administration official said Washington has been losing influence around the world because Mr. Obama repeatedly has demanded that Syrian President Bashar Assad step aside and nothing has happened.
     
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  2. kpsta

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    Perhaps she was not paying attention during Mitt's European trip? He didn't even pick a VP with any sort of foreign affairs pedigree either.
     
  3. JimRaynor55

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    Yeah, I think I'll take the current state of things over the complete cluster **** of the Bush years. :rolleyes:

    Typical Republican arrogance here. Bring up that "American exceptionalism" catchphrase again and act as if dealing with other countries with a conciliatory tone is "apologizing." Funny how Republicans like to believe that America didn't make mistakes in the past decade, or that "apologizing" is somehow a bad word here.

    Last time I checked, the vast majority of the American population is more concerned with the economy, and fed up with these long wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan. I say this as someone who doesn't favor a hasty withdrawal from Afghanistan, and would rather see the Taliban stomped into the ground where they belong.

    Obama hasn't gone to war with Syria? Neither do the Republicans. The Tea Party has been quite clear about its isolationist preferences. If you have a real alternative, such as attacking Syria, then go ahead and say it. Take a real stand, if the current policy is so bad. Otherwise, stop blowing hot air.
     
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  4. gifford1967

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    Who was in charge when thousands of U.S. citizens were slaughtered in a terrorist attack?


    Who was in charge when the mastermind of that attack was hunted down and killed?
     
  5. Nook

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    Is Condi really the right person to question Obama's foreign policy? She was a complete and absolute failure. She was a polarizing figure that alienated us from large parts of the rest of the world and was fist deep in plunging us into a multi front war which has greatly contributed to our current economic state.

    It is a lot easier to make a mess than to clean up someone else's mess. Obama should be honored.
     
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  6. Nook

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    I think she is on to something, Obama should do what the prior administration did, screw it, just start another war, this time with Syria. Who cares in the spending gets out of control or if innocent civilians or american soldiers die, they are poor and not important anyway.
     
  7. Cannonball

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    That's pretty weak sauce. I guess if Mitt were president, we would've invaded Syria by now. Iran too. Who need to exhaust diplomatic options when we can have more war? Gotta put all those "Defense" dollars to work, right?
     
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    The GOP is full of a bunch of sensationalist fear mongers.
     
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  9. rimrocker

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    This is one of the funniest stories I've read from the wingnut rump in quite awhile. It's like Meatloaf giving advice to Derek Jeter on how to pick up chicks.
     
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  10. bigtexxx

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    a lot of liberal defensiveness here. Looks like I struck a nerve with Obama's complete failure in Syria. He's bending over and taking it from Putin.
     
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    This is like taking advice on which cut of meat to order from a vegan.
     
  13. NewRoxFan

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    To add to this... GWB had to assign his personal PR person (Karen Hughes) to try to fix the US image problems in the middle east. Of course, Hughes was mostly a failure.
     
  14. mc mark

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    Condi better be careful

    Those drones can come from anywhere.
     
  15. Dubious

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    part of her deal to get in Augusta was to step up for the oligarchs
     
  16. mc mark

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    Interesting what the perspective is according to the source.

    Condi Rice Can’t Name A Specific Obama Foreign Policy Failure

    Today on CBS’s morning show, former Bush administration Secretary of State and top Mitt Romney surrogate Condoleezza Rice could not offer any specific foreign policy failures made by President Obama. Romney’s allies, led by Rice and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), are expected to attack Obama on national security grounds tonight in at the Republican National Convention in Tampa.

    But when asked to offer specifics this morning on CBS, all Rice could come up with was some vague attack on Obama’s Syria policy, which, host Norah O’Donnell noted, the president himself might agree with:

    O’DONNELL: Can you be specific about somewhere where you think President Obama has failed on foreign policy.

    RICE: What we should do tonight, is talk about what a President Romney would mean for America. It’s not a time to look back, it’s a time to look forward. We have real challenges out there, in the Middle East, in Asia, in Europe, with our allies.

    O’DONNELL: But if President Obama isn’t doing anything wrong, then why change things?

    RICE: It’s a question of what a President Romney would do and there is no doubt that the United States’ voice has been muted and when the United States’ voice is muted the world is a more dangerous place.

    O’DONNELL: How is the United States’ voice muted?

    RICE: Just look at the situation in Syria for instance. We have a circumstance in which Assad is butchering his people. The Iranians are helping him to do so. The United States seems to be mired in the Security Council. The Russians and the Chinese say no, no, no and we don’t have an answer. When that is the case, it’s a dangerous place. …

    O’DONNELL: But I think the president agrees with that as well. Having covered the White House, the question is whether … a President Romney would be willing to advocate and commit American troops, American lives, in a place like Syria right now.
     
  17. Dubious

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    Can anyone post Mr. Romney's proposed actions with regard to Syria? Any GOP strategy? Any f****ing plasible plan for for US involvement other than covert support while trying to figure out who the factions even are?

    How does she even really know what IS going on? Did Michelle Bachman give her her secret intelligence briefings?

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  18. JimRaynor55

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    I asked the same thing myself. Notice that bigtexx is still here talking smack even as he blatantly sidesteps these questions.

    If Republicans really think so, they should should come forth and advocate war with Syria despite the shaky economy, growing deficit, and upcoming defense cuts. Defense cuts that they pushed through BTW, even though they're now trying to flip flop and claim that Obama's the one trying to slash the military.

    But they won't do that. That would require that they actually make the tough choices, compromise, and weigh competing needs. They'd rather bark about their single-minded ideology.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    what's worse is that Obama's inaction is completely politically driven
     
  20. mc mark

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    So was the Iraq war. In the words of your twin, no cred.
     

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