Rehashing as old topics. There have been plenty of SA vs Cat and Cat vs MD threads. Who's the best of the three? I like dickerson the best. A little taller than Mobley, incredibly fast, and has a great shot. Can handle bigger guards better than Mobley. His defense isn't as good as SA, but isn't matador either. He's better offensively than SA. I feel I'm about to be tried for heresy, but i still wish we could of traded Mobley instead of Dickerson. Added bonus is the rockets would have more cap room. ------------------ "You've got 6 fouls, use them well" -Derrick Coleman
I agree with you about preferring that we traded Mobley instead of Dickerson. But maybe it was meant to happen this way. Would Francis have loved Houston this much if Mobley wasn't here? Not that he's the only reasn he's here. this is HOUSTON we're talkin about! Mobley's headed the right direction so far and could be alot better than Dickerson in the long run. ------------------ How Sweet it is!
Once again you guys underestimate the value of Shandon. He is head and shoulders above either one of those guys. He doesn't force up bad shots, doesn't whine when not playing, doesn't demand the ball and most importantly is a team player. 'nuff said ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
Couldn't have said it better ma self Bob! Shandon's da man! and DESERVES to start over Mobley. ------------------ How Sweet it is!
I like Mike but he doesn't have the one-on-one skills or ability to create a shot that Cuttino has, which allows Stevie to get more scoring opportunities.
I would take Shandon over Cat or MD but if it were a choice between Cat and MD, it would be Cat. Anderson is the best all around player the Rockets have had in a long time outside of Dream. Anderson is capable of scoring like the other 2 and can play defense and rebound better. No question Shandon is the man. ------------------ Houston Rockets Forever!! In Rudy We Trust
Sorry dudes, but Michael Dickerson is the best of the bunch. He is the best defender of the three, and is one of the fastest players in the NBA. When his shot is falling, he is an All-Star caliber shooting guard. Shandon is just a tiny, teeny, eeny, weenie, bit worse that MD, imvho. ------------------
I have to go with Mobley. I am an offense guy, so Mobley it is. Now if I wanted best well rounded player, I would go with Shandon. ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
i guess i have to get involved in this one, because i am a huge fan of Cat. but i will be fair on this one. MD is the best producer so far(especially last season). which is good for a fantasy team, but not really my prefered SG. MD played a ton of minutes to get the numbers he got, and he was on a team with little other guard talent. bibby came on strong in the end, but MD was relied on to push the game. in houston there are obviously 2 great SG, and a super PG. so there is less asked of Cat and Shandon. i a positive that if cat were given the kind of minutes that MD got he would definately out produce him. i think Cat is a great PURE SG. now SA is a good SG, and A good SF. SA has versitility that the other 2 dont really have. sure cat can run the point if he has to, but he is a SG. andersons style of play is more that of a SF, and it makes him verry valuable to the team, but since the argument is about SG. i think Mobley has to be the best. not only on what he has done, but based on what he WILL do. Wink and Cat will be here for a long time, and i think Rudy realized Cats value back when the big trade happened. but than again this is only My opinion ------------------
Dickerson best defender of the three?I dont know about that Anderson is pretty solid.Although at the time I would have rather kept Dickerson and traded Mobley,Cat has grown on me and I love having him come off the bench for a instant spark. ------------------
Huh? Sorry, but Dickerson is not even in Anderson's neighborhood as far as defense. I like Mobley the most in terms of just watching them play, but out of the three I think Anderson is the best. His defense, hustle, and other intangibles give him an edge over both Dickerson and Mobley. And he certainly can score when called upon also. I'd take Shandon out of that bunch. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com 4th Friday of August= Rocket Day 1999-Steve Francis 2000-Maurice Taylor
I think they should all go one on one. Here are the rules: You are limited to two dribbles per possession Make it-take it First to 11 by ones wins. Are you listening boys?!?!?!!?? ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
Dickerson was more highly regarded than Mobley....I don't think anyone really expected Mobley to put up 16 a game going into the season. I don't think Vancouver would've done it with Mobley instead of Dickerson. It'd close between Francis and Dickerson. It'd depend on your PG. With Bibby, I'd want Dickerson. With Francis, I'd want Shandon. Works out great for both teams. ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated.
Are you guys really serious about Shandon being better than MD? You'd only find that kind of talk on a Rockets board. I wonder how Shandon can be so underrated if in every other post, something is said about Shandon being underrated. Saying Shandon does all the little things and is underrated is not an astute observation anymore. It's like when announcers call Dale Davis unheralded when he's making the freaking All Star team! How much more heralded can a player get than be picked to the all star game! Quit saying Shandon's underrated. If anything, Shandon's overrated around here. There are plenty of 2 guards who can come out, play D, and give you 12 points a night. He's good, but he's not that rare of a player. He's comparable to a Mario Elie with fresh legs but without the clutch shots and charisma. I like him, but any GM in the league would take MD over Shandon straight up IMO and rightfully so. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Oatdog (edited September 15, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Oatdog (edited September 16, 2000).]
yep. Great trade (especially for us) that helped both teams. Francis wasn't playing the 2, and with Bibby, Van. had no place for Francis ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
I'll vote for Shandon on this one, although it's painful watching Dickerson's talents utilized so well after he left. On those occasions when Steve was out, Shandon had some UNbelievable games. How many points did he score? Wasn't it against Phoenix? And other teams, too. Games of 25 and more. I think he's highly underrated offensively. He can score when necessary. Thing is, he defers to Steve and Cat in this category. I recently read some of those pre-season publications, magazines that evaluate all the teams prior to the season -- and, lamentably, prior to most summer-time trades, often yielding highly inaccurate rosters (no MoTay listed for us, hence, "Rox dire need of frontcourt scoring will put them back in the lottery") -- and Shandon was nowhere found among the Top 20 shooting guards. Cat was there. Dickerson was there. Steve was, of course, listed high among PGs. But Shandon's quiet fire doesn't earn him recognition. ------------------
If you remember any of the names, could you post some of the people they said were better than Shandon? Other than the obvious 2 guards, of course. ------------------ Falk that Mo Fo!!!
Well, obviously, all three of them have different games (great topic by the way). I would say that Mobley would be the most important to the Rockets as far as the style of offense we run. He would be the most irreplacable out of the three. I would agree that Anderson is head and shoulders above Dickerson defensively. Not even close. I would say that Anderson plays without the ball very well, and is an excellent defensive player. Dickerson really doesn't do any of these things. He's a very good spot-up shooter, is what it comes down to. He's no more under-sized at the 2-spot than Mobley. Add to that that Mobley can play the point if needed, and Dickerson can't. Anderson can also play the 3-spot with no problem, and Dickerson can't. I think it's very clear that the Rockets made out better by giving up Dickerson instead of Mobley. I haven't even begun to talk about Shandino's clutch playoff performances with the Jazz... ------------------ "The only problem is I always think of the guitar player from Dokken when I hear his name." -Traj, on the possibility of George Lynch joining the Rockets.
When was Dale Davis voted to the all star game? The coaches put him on, not the fans. Coaches don't have a say in overrating players (some cases of media props, etc. not included) they do over/under estimating. TheFreak-just don't remember Shandon's missed reverse layups vs. the bulls ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated.
I would take Michael Dickerson, I was so pissed when he was traded. I would have rather traded Mobely. In one on one skills Mobley has the edge. In outside shooting, Michael has the edge. In defense and hustle Shandon has the edge. In athletic ability Michael has the edge. In scoring ability Michael and Cat both have the edge. And in the clutch Mobley has the edge. If I had to choose it would be Michael. Shandon would be second with Mobely a close third. Michael is just more all around, cause he plays D unlike Mobley. ------------------ "See they pick and pick and pick. Man they picked me to death." -Steve Francis on the Utah Jazz
