To nights game (Rox.vSuns) gave me a new insight...

He's not a teenager. He is 20.

 

What exactly are you asking here? We worked him out. I'm pretty sure they liked him. He just didn't fall to our spot at #15, and nobody was willing to take him over Ming at #1. What did you expect the Rockets to do?

 

No one perdicted this. By no one, I mean absolutely no one but himself, and he didn't even mention it to the media.

Chris Wilcox is as built and as polished, but he's not doing anything. He doesn't have minutes, but in the minutes he's played, he's been horrific.

You can never tell with high school players. Indiana thought they hada 6'10 Kobe Bryant on their hands, but instead just got a decent player. For a decent player, it wasn't worth the gamble, because Jonathan Bender type players are available at #15, but they went out of their way to get him.

I do agree though, Yao Ming and Stoudamire? It would be over. Best frontcourt tandem, and it would last for a solid 10 years at least.

 

I didn't think he was gonna be this good, but I thought he was a worthwile project who should have gone higher, though I wish he fell to us. We're not even using Boki, but if we had Stoudamire, we could have traded EG and KT for a damn good SF.

 

if we really needed a PF then we would have probably traded up to try to get stoudamire. however the rockets have alot of confidence in EG, so power forward was not as big of a need. the rockets could afford to settle for boki at #15 than force a trade and move up. stoudamire was by no means a sure thing. i mean eddie looked great at the end of last year. he was blocking a ton of shots and rebounding like a mad man. of course if we knew that stoudamire was going to be the next shawn kemp then we would have made a move up. all of this stuff is just hindsight....what if the rockets drafted clyde instead of mccray?

 

U r crazy! stoudamire is "baby oneal", just baby oneal.Now he dont have defence,jimpt shoot,maybe would.Pls dontnot hype him so much.Yes he is a great dunker now.,made 4dunk! Being blocked 7 times! yao 3 cato1 SF 1 Norris 2!

I love griff, griff will outplay him in the future!

 

Put Boki in. Who knows he is as good as Amare

 

sorry,could not edit my post!I am just falling into a deep depression since yao didnt throw down the damn ball after
strong moves.he should have a big game!

But rockets defeat suns!

someone ought to tell yao, u have the power and skills help
the rockets to get rings.

You should have a big game!!!

 

Don't worry. Isn't the most important thing winning?
Yao just has an off-night. I believe he is very embarrased, so he will come out strong on Friday. Look for Yao coming up really focused and strong against Shaq.

 

Cmellon, totally agree with you, for once!

On another note, Shaq just has a 9-24 FG 5-11 FT shooting night against Hornets. Everyone has off night!

 

Man.... Am I that bad??

I am defending everyone in the Rocket's team, including Yao, you know.

 

True, you are

but you are very predictable...you read to much into things and over-react to them. But you are not alone in this...many others here do also..

Just calm down and read what saner/calmer posters have to say and ask yourself...Does that make sense? Do I really *need* to post this opinion??

 

Yao really looked tired in recently games. He probably hits
the rookie wall right now. dont expect too much on him.

 

Human beings are never satisfied. People be thankful for what you have.


I am thankful of Scottie Pipen. The domino effect of his exit gave us the opportunity to to be where we are now which is pretty damn GREAT. We have Yao Ming, Steve, Eddie, Nachbar, Mobley and Possey. A great bunch. We have Cluth, Jeff, Chance - our own in-house celebrities. We have a brand spanking new Arena. We have 2 championships to be proud of.

We cannot have it all. Yao will be a great one for years to come. Just imagine if we did not win the lottery - we would have drafted a small forward - Mike Dunleavy Jr (God forbid). Now think about how bad that would have been? Missing on Yao and then Amare? Now that would have sucked.

We cannot have it all indeed.

 

But can we afford them when their contracts are up?

I am a little skeptical we will have the cap room to resign Clutch, Jeff and Chance when their contracts are up. Hopefully something will be worked out

Chris

 

why exactly did you quote me and say i was crazy? for calling him shawn kemp? did you ever see shawn kemp play when he was young? amare and kemp have the exact same game. monster dunks and great transition game, but no jump shot. both came straight from hs too.

 

Here we have the age-old fallacy of reasoning that says "if player S is so good, and we already have awesome players Y and F, then with S, we'd be unstoppable."

(No disrespect to Sane), but IMO, that is faulty logic at best. That same kind of logic has been applied erroneously to:

1. Dikembe and the Nets
2. Dikembe and the 76ers
2. Spreewell and Houston
3. JayWilliams and Fizer

Nothing is ever that simple where team chemistry and egos are involved. Examining rookies are as much an exercise in evaluating the rookie's "team" as it is the rookie's productivity. Some rookies simply dont' have the opportunity to shine. This is the single greatest impediment to ANY ROOKIE, PERIOD. e.g. Desmond Mason... the dude is INCREDIBLE... yet how come he was buried in the Seattle roster for two-years before he become "visible"? IMO, based on old highlights, Boki is incredibly talented, yet he may as well be the season long, DNP on this team. Fact is, Amare is in a unique situation where he was afforded the opportunity and he's making the most out of it. Kudos to him.

But would he work on the Rockets? IMHO, NO

Assuming that we already HAVE Yao, Amare wouldn't work on the Rockets. There simply aren't enough minutes and points to go around. Fact is, Amare is VERY FORTUNATE to have landed on PHX where he CAN get the minutes and the touches. Just think about it for a sec. A rookie at an overstocked position getting minutes in the RudyT system??? Amare would be stuck behind our forward glut. If you think Boki gets no minutes, where do you think Amare would be at? Amare could have easily been a bench player who, for lack of attention, would have left or been traded to one of those younger sub-500 teams. Surely, this is all speculation. But I don't think it takes much speculation to figure that had he been on the Rox, Amare would NOT have gotten the minutes and, consequently, the opportunity to shine, as he does in PHX.

JMHO



theSAGE

 

sage...boki is on the bench every game not just because he is a rook. he just isn't nba ready like every single stupid scout said he was. i think that should be pretty clear to everyone by now. rudy isn't just sitting him because he likes to sit players who are super talented that might be helping the team to win. if that was true then yao would be getting a hell of a lot less minutes than he is. remember rudy wanted to be cautious with yao, but yao by far exceeded expectations and rudy was forced to start him and play him big minutes. if boki was that impressive to rudy don't you think he would be playing more and not just riding the pine?

now if we had amare, eg, MoT, and KT at the 4 to start the season you will remember that the PF spot was up for grabs. do you remember no one was playing good enough to take the job? rudy was desperate at the 4 to start the season...i think he would have given amare a chance to shine. plus amare's body is nba-ready. i'm pretty sure that would have been pretty clear in practice to rudy how fast and powerful stoudamire is. also remember rudy did give nachbar playing time early in the season...so its hard to say that he wouldn't have given stoudamire a chance.

thats just rambling...but i hope that makes some sense