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[Chron] Lakers acquire Howard, what next for Rockets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TexAg713, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. TEXNIFICENT

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    Are you kidding? Have you seen the rack on that twin? ;)
     
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    Carl,

    we had the best offer on the table. Not even close. What does that tell you? It should be real clear. This wasn't a basketball decision. It was a personal decision by a person (Martens) that got buffaloed into laying a turd with his words. He bumbled the verbage at last year's trade deadline. He wasn't strong and firm enough with Dwight and didn't act in the Orlando Magic's best interest at that time. And he paid for it by having to cut a lousy deal for his team. He should be fired...but alas his owner probably doesn't have a clue and he hired the guy anyways.
     
  3. Ultimate6thMan

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    Yes they will be. I would also like to see us do some matchups and for example but in Royce at the 3 some to match up against Artest....even maybe start him there and let Chandler start at the two since both Lin and Royce can handle the ball a lot.

    I don't wanna see PPat against Gasol, but I would love to see Gasol try to guard Donuts or Jones...don't think he can and it will probably frustrate him and make him disappear.

    Lamb will come in off the bench along with Martin and just give the Lakers second unit fits with their scoring. To me we just need one more really defensive minded big center to collect some more fouls on Howard at the end of the game when it's close so that the Laker fans can see him choke on those free throws and really piss off Kobe as they lose! lol
     
  4. Raven

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    First, I'm stunned that Les-More really did offer up any two of the kids, and I'm more stunned that Orlando passed. Wow, thank god the Magic are a third rate org or we would have ended up gutting our future for a diva who never wanted to be here.
     
  5. Icehouse

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    Amen. We should be happy that trade fell through. Talk about going all in.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    Yes, he belongs in both the best ass and best rack threads.
     
  7. MambaJoe

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    Its not like Houston lose anything. If anything, Houston can finally rebuild the right way instead of hearing Dwight Howard whine his butt off until he gets traded or bolt in the offseason. If this team doesn't do well at all, it's only a good thing when it comes to the draft night. The Rockets have their own draft pick, toronto and dallas's pick.

    I think overall this is good for us because we don't have to worry any longer about Dwight and his drama and start thinking about the future of this team. Its finally good that the Rockets are rebuilding the right way instead of trying to take the short cut which always ended up short. All the successful power teams got there from the star that they drafted. The Rockets should get their own homegrown star through the draft. Not trade for one that doesn't want to be here.
     
  8. Easy

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    That exactly what I felt.

    And if Aflalo was really the deciding factor that trumped our offer, then I don't know what to say. They are just dumber than what I thought. Or maybe the conspiracy theory has some merit.

    Anyway, if Feigan is telling the truth, then Clutch's theory that Morey was lowballing Orlando was wrong. That wasn't a lowball offer.
     
  9. TexAg713

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    I don't think what I'm about to type is what happened, but I suppose it is possible: Houston could also be exaggerating what they were actually offering to protect themselves from angry fans. Let's assume they didn't actually want to trade for Dwight, they'd have to keep that a secret because critics would have Morey's head, what with all his talk about collecting assets to trade for a superstar. Even if there was a reasonable explanation for why they didn't want him, some fans wouldn't understand and he'd never hear the end of it. This way the Rockets can shift the blame over to Orlando's side. Who knows.
     
  10. Happii

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    Thank god Orlando is a crappily managed organisation. They had a chance to get the Brooklyn deal which would have provided them with so many assets. They had a chance to get the Houston deal which would of gotten them young players and cap relief plus draft picks. They passed on both and chose to get Afflalo and a bunch of useless Laker picks.
     
  11. TexAg713

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    They probably justified the difference between the Nets offer and their actual haul by sending him to the Western conference. I'm still very confused as to why they didn't accept our offer but I'm sure there's a very interesting story behind that. I hope we find out what it was soon.

    At the very least they should have taken Bynum from LA. They could have easily flipped him for more valuable assets than a couple prospects, contract liabilities and questionable protected picks. Any way you slice it, Orlando screwed up big time! Bynum was not much of a flight risk at all.
     
  12. Aruba77

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    I don't think we offered any two of our rookies. I think if DMo and Lamb were on the table, Orlando would have jumped at that.
     
  13. Easy

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    In Matt J's interview, Morey never answered the question "What did you offer?" And Hennigan's words implied that what was reported in the media was not the same as what was actually on the table.

    It comes down to who's spinning, Orlando or Houston.
     
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    Of course what Feigen prints has to be endorsed by the Rockets. Does anyone think they're going to let Feigen tell everyone what they really offered?
     
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    Lamb and D-Mo, co ROY winners. Book it!
     
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    Feigen says we were not offering Parsons. This could have been the deal breaker next to offering 2 (and not 3) of the young players. Magic finally got 3 interesting players.

    Anyway, what I start to realize is that Morey is not very flexible at negotiations... and right now there are the results. Certainly he deserves some criticism.
     
  18. Rokman

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    Well, we lose out on Dwight Howard. Ok.

    I don't think the Lakers can go all the way. Kobe is really starting to wear down, Nash is another year older and his defense is still just as bad, Gasol has been very unimpressive this last season and no one knows how Dwight is going to play after that surgery. Lots of big question marks around that squad. Most importantly, no Phil Jackson to guide them! Their window to win is this year and next year and that's it. After the 2013-2014 season its pretty much just going to be Dwight on that team. I still see the Thunder as the team to beat without a close second.

    As for the Rockets, its completely up in the air about what their future holds. It's all crossed fingers and prayers. We won't know what to expect from the new crop until after the 2013-2014 season as they all need time to develop and by that point, half of them will probably be traded away. Morey at some point has to realize that he is not going to win a championship with this much turnover. Players knowing each other and the coaches system is paramount. Unless Morey cuts down on all the wheeling and dealing, he's going to remain in limbo. Dragic, Lowry, Lee, Martin, Parsons, Budinger, Scola, Patterson, Cambys, Motiejunas could have done a whole lot of damage this next year with a whole season together and still playing under Adelman not McHale. That could have been an option for us fans.

    Now that we are a completely gutted and unknown team full of 0 - 1 year NBA experience players I suppose we are supposed to be excited. This is square 1 folks. The championship is far, FAR away.

    Keep your fingers crossed and say your prayers. We are walking down a new unbeaten path in a world with no mercy for error. This will take a lot of patience.
     
  19. zaam

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    Fair enough, but let's not forget that the larger goal was to build a championship team. Trading for Howard was a only part of that. Giving too much for DH would deplete assets needed for a second big trade and in the case of Parsons, strip away a part of the core of talent necessary to be competitive. It made no sense to bring Howard in to be a part of a "rebuilding" team.

    Apparently, the line had to be drawn somewhere. I would be more critical of Morey had he not had the discipline to do just that.
     
  20. jhagerdorn

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    Has anyone put a thought to thinking it wasn't the deal , but do all GM's not seem to like working with DM? maybe they just don't like the way he works. Seems like NO deal goes thru when he is involved... as well as players do not want go to houston.... until we get rid or morey, we will struggle to b a championship contender.... ugh...
     

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