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*IF* the Dwight/LA trade is legit, what's Morey's plan B?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. Happii

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    Can someone remind this guy that we got the Toronto Draft pick. We don't even need to be a tanking team next season. We should just need to hope the Raptors are god awful.
     
  2. roxxy

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    Your are being to harsh. about the players but you are right about the number of wins the Rockets will win.
     
  3. Hak34

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    They won't be. Im going to guess they pick around 12-15 ish. Which is probably what Orlando figured out also and why they didn't really value it as a pick so much.
     
  4. NL Rocket

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    I hope it indeed is going with the young guys :) Still, there is so many players (forwards) who can be included in a deal that you have to wonder if Morey is still after a guy like Gasol. Please let it not be so...
     
  5. CometsWin

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    It could be worse. We could have traded the best center in basketball for Aaron Afflalo, Al Harrington, and a bag of lottery protected picks.
     
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  6. DonatasFanboy

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    Jefferson is the obvious odd man out.
    He doesn't fit the system nor the defensive philosophy well, had injury issues and will want a significant new deal soon.

    Favors is more than fine at PF. He and Kanter complement each other well.
    Both can also play 5 next to Milsap.
    There are 96 minutes at PF/C spot.
    They have a pure PF, a pure C, and a PF/C who has great synergy with both of them in terms of abilities.

    That's not a situation you try to change, unless you are forced to by injuries / money / lack of progress from one of them.

    I can't think of a deal. You basically stick to them unless you get a star. Not break them down into multiple lesser assets.
     
  7. OremLK

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    There have been numerous statistical analyses done on this and the conclusion continues to be that they were comparable players last year. You can go back and forth all day about each player's strengths and weaknesses and points in their favor and whatever, but when it boils down to it, their expected value moving forward is very close.

    He's in a contract year. He's going to play for his last big pay day after the season ends. Bank on that.

    Are you kidding? He started all season and gave elite talents like Durant a hard time while flashing some offensive talent and great basketball instincts. He'd probably start for at least half of the teams in this league.

    He was recovering from a bad injury all last year. He's the weakest link in the starting lineup but he's still going to surprise a lot of you guys. Wouldn't be shocked if he emerged as a solid starter.

    Asik is one of the top 3 or 4 defensive big men in the NBA according to both scouting reports and advanced metrics. He's not Camby in his prime, but is he as good or better than the Camby we had on our team last season? You bet.

    You're delusional.
     
  8. DonatasFanboy

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    nerf you for picking that name in 2008.
     
  9. Ashes

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    He didn't.
     
  10. Nook

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    Picking in the 8-12 range seems a little optimistic. With the the way it currently is configured I see us in the 5-8 range with an injury to Lin or Asik pushing us into the 3-5 range.

    Martin is a bad fit for McHale. Even when healthy he did not play especially well under our scheme. He also will not play defense. Lamb is promising, but we shouldn't read too much into the summer league. I expect he will have flashes but not enough to make a real difference next year. For next year he is sn overall down grade from Courtney Lee.

    Lin I expect to not be as good as 18/8, and certainly is not as good as Lowry and Dragic. Overall we have down graded the point guard position. Lin and Douglas simply are not as good as Lowry and Dragic.

    I like Parsons, but he has to improve offensively to be more than a Stacy Augmon role player. I think with Scola and Chase gone the touches will be there, but not sure he will take advantage.

    Scola is gone, and unless Patterson really improves we will have a revolving door of mediocrity at the 4. Donatas is not physically ready, Jones and White are rookies and the rest are covered in warts.

    Asik is a stud defender, but will he be able to keep the hustle that makes him special when he is playing 30 minutes? Will he stay out of foul trouble? Can the Rockets accept 5 points a night from the 5 spot?

    I love the flexibility of the roster and youth. Morey has cut out the mediocrity that has plagued post Yao. I just have a hard time seeing the Rockets winning more than 35 games, and an injury to a key starter, or Asik struggling could push us into 25-30 wins.
     
  11. psingh34

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    plan B is having a fun exciting team to watch .. lets face it if lakers have kobe, howard, gasol and nash .. and heat have their 3 (along with allen) who the hell is going to beat them? what can we do to even come close to that? nothing .. so might as well have a fun and exciting season with an uptempo team that is fun to watch
     
  12. DonatasFanboy

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    i agree with basically all of what you just said (it's hard to predict Martin's year, contract or not), but i share that last delusion too.

    Put it this way, last season, the worst team at 30 win or better pace (prorated for 82 game season) were the Pistons (31 win pace).
    Then the Wolves (32 win pace overall, but 16 win pace after Rubio got injured) and Blazers (35 win pace).

    30 wins take quality.
    Those teams had arguably -- and I'd say considerably -- better rosters than the Rockets next year.
    Love, Monroe and Aldridge are beasts. A number of very solid role players on each of these teams too.
     
  13. DonatasFanboy

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    mod-connection?
     
  14. Ashes

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    Losing gets old after awhile.
     
  15. Hak34

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    What makes this funny is that Im not sure you actually think Rockets are close to a playoff team as you have suggested, or if its just your pom poms clouding your vision.
     
  16. koopa

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    His plan B is to crawl up into a corner and cry. But in all seriousness Jeremy Lin will carry the team..it doesn't matter who the support will be. The scrubbier the team the better Jeremy Lin will play and the bottom line is he is capable of getting Wins
     
  17. OremLK

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    I don't think the Rockets are close to a playoff team. I think their median is close to the back end of the West. Maybe the third or fourth worst team in the West? The West is bloody stacked.

    But the East is true garbage and we'll finish with a better record than a number of teams over there.
     
  18. OremLK

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    I'm not even going to address the rest of your arguments they were so bad, by the way. You may have had one or two facts in there--otherwise you just repeated the same crap you already said, which I already refuted.
     
  19. imarealballer

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    Maybe, but he'll have to spend more time on his back than Jenna Jameson if he's going to get the rox into the playoffs.
     
  20. RedNation

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    Wait, some people think:

    Lin
    Martin
    Parsons
    Patterson
    Asik
    Is a playoff team?

    La, okc, san antonio, memphis, denver, utah, lac, mavs, suns are all better.
     

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