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Should've the Rockets drafted Amare Stoudamire instead of Yao?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tigermission1, Jan 11, 2003.

  1. Shrimpie

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    How about Francis has less jealousy which Marbury has tons of? If you put Marbury and Yao in the same team, it won't take too long for Marbury to ask for a trade simply because Yao will get most of the media attention. I don't care how talented Marbury is, if he can't overcome his jealousy, he will be a cancer for a team.

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  2. fanboy98

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    i demand you be less stupid!

    amare is a slightly above average power forward. thats not because he isnt gifted, its because every team has some name player at the 4 spot. amare is basically ben wallace with better offense but worse d.

    in 5 years yoa ming will be among the top 3 players in the league.

    amare will be one of many productive power fowards.
    elton brand, eddie grifin, jermain oneal, kwame brown, tyson chandler, tim duncan, kg, chris webber, nowitzki, karl malone(in his 30th year), pau gasol, rasheed wallace, antwoine walker, van horn, k mart, jamison, mcdyess, hilario, ben wallace, rahim...
     
  3. tigereye

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    Amare and Yao are both great players with huge upside.

    Their is just one major difference

    You cant teach height. Amare will never be 7'-5" tall.

    That's why Yao will always be the better player. Cuz he is that tall and plays that damn good.

    P.S.
    I didnt start this ridicoulous thread. the thread starter is tigermission

    I am TIGEREYE! and there is no relation, thank god!!!!!!!
     
  4. Darrinlane

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    Just about every sportswriter still states that Yao would still be in the allstar game. Just not starting. He is definately the second best center in the West. Not that that is saying much with our center starved league. The lack of centers is what makes Ming more valuable than Amare. Malone, Duncan, Garnett, Webber, etc. are all great PF.
     
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    No Amare, thanks.

    Yao will bring us the ring and Amare will not even be close to it.
     
  6. RocksMillenium

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    Huh?

    As for the original poster of this thread, if Yao couldn't get better then he is now why can Amare Stoudemire get better?
     
  7. RocksMillenium

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    <b>I think it is a true mistake to judge a player's abilities by how many votes he gets in the All-Star voting. Yao is going to be a great player IF he stays healthy. </b>

    You can say the same thing about Amare Stoudemire. If Yao can get hurt why can't Stoudemire?

    <b>However, Yao in his greatest prime would never be as dominant as Shaq is, and just because he is popular doesnot mean he is better. </b>

    But Stoudemire would be as dominant as Shaq? Yao is only 22 years old, how would you know whether he is as dominant as Shaq? Shaq didn't start dominating until his late 20s.

    <b>As for Francis vs. Marbury, I agree about the personality thing. But the way I see it is that Francis lacks exactly what Marbury has, and that is toughness and true motivation to prove people wrong.</b>

    Lack of toughness, true motivation? Are we talking about the same Francis who dunked earlier this year, fell on hsi tailbone and finished the game? Francis who tore up his shoulder and rehabbed like a mofo all summer and even wanted to be in the Olympics? The same Francis who has worked harder AFTER signing a monster extension? That is doing everything to make the playoffs, even conceding the offense to Yao? Maybe it's not as much as people want him to, but he's doing it.

    <b>But Marbury does not lack anything that Francis has, except may be dunking every now and then. When I look at it that way, I seem to be favoring Marbury over Francis.</b>

    You can favor Marbury over Francis all you want, but the funny thing is Francis now is what Marbury was when he first came into the league. I'll take Francis, younger, a lot more upside, and hasn't hit his prime yet. The Marbury you see now and are favoring is Marbury after 6 years of experience. Francis still has several years of that left. And no I wouldn't trade Stoudemire for Yao Ming, no way.
     
  8. MadMax

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    the answer is no

    both have a ton of potential...but you have to look at everything from the day of the draft, without the benefit of hindsight. always, always, always take the best big man available if the guy warrants a top 3 pick. ming is the biggest of all big men!! (ok, not really..but close!). you take olajuwon before you take jordan and you don't look back...because the league has traditionally been dominated by big men.

    plus...the marketing/business end warranted taking ming as well. i'm sure the rockets haven't even begun to feel the real effects yet of being asia's favorite NBA team.
     
  9. ROCS4LIFE

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    No, Yao has more brains then Stadumire. Yao has basketball skills that will continue to grow, and Stadumire only has hustle, but not that much skills. Only thing he can do is dunk.
     
  10. xiki

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    Better comparison is Shawn Kemp, I believe.

    And what would one do with EG?

    PS Starbury has sick skills. And a sick personality. Advantage: Franchise








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  11. LLJ

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    Everyone used to dog Tracy McGrady. Now people say he might be better than Kobe (I don't, but I'm trying to show something here...)

    The bottom line is you can't know unless you give players time to develop

    I'm not a Stoudemire fan, but I will say that his style of play (muscle over skill) can go a LOOOONG way. Moses, Serena Willaims and Shaq show that muscle CAN beat mind.
     
  12. LLJ

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    That's Serena _Williams_...argh, edit still broken?
     
  13. LiTtLeY1521

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    My God...you're dumber than SLA!
     
  14. LLJ

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    Am I? Tell me for a fact that Martina Hingis at her peak could compete with the power game Serena Williams brings to the table? Maybe for a few rounds, but after that, it's all Serena.

    Shaq has been dominating through power for the last several years. Nobody can move him, and when he throws his weight around, he's unstoppable.

    Moses Malone was short, but he was the most physical player of the 80s. Kareem had trouble with Moses, Parish has trouble with Moses...Moses was a power centre, and when he banged, you were going to back off.

    I'm not saying that I like it, but the reality is that power DOES make a difference in sports. A HUGE difference.
     
  15. RunninRaven

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    Impossible to tell at this point. But given the difficulty of finding a quality center in this league, and the weaknesses of the Rockets before the draft, taking Yao was a no brainer, and even knowing what we know now about Amare, I would still take Ming.
     
  16. dragon167

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    May I suggest that you trade your status as rockets fan(presume that u r now!!!) for the status as suns fan. :rolleyes: You can even accept your trade without asking anyone else. Enjoy your suns games.
     
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