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[ESPN] Doc Rivers Takes Blame for Ray Allen Leaving

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  1. yobod

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    Doc Rivers Takes The Blame For Ray Allen Going To Miami

    Celtics coach Doc Rivers said he thought his decision-making was the primary reason why guard Ray Allen chose to sign with the Miami Heat over staying in Boston, not the veteran's deteriorating relationship with Rajon Rondo.

    "People can use all the Rondo stuff -- and it was there, no doubt about that -- but it was me more than Rondo," Rivers told Yahoo! Sports in an interview conducted at the London Olympics, where the coach is working as an NBC analyst. "I'm the guy who gave Rondo the ball. I'm the guy who decided that Rondo needed to be more of the leader of the team. That doesn't mean guys liked that -- and Ray did not love that -- because Rondo now had the ball all the time.

    "Think about everything (Allen) said when he left, 'I want to be more of a part of the offense.' Everything was back at Rondo. And I look at that, and say, 'That's not Rondo's fault.' That's what I wanted Rondo to do, and that's what Rondo should've done."

    Rivers also told Yahoo! that Allen was bothered by losing his starting job to Avery Bradley, but the coach said he didn't regret the decision to start Bradley because it was what was best for the team.

    Allen turned down Boston's two-year, $12 million offer to accept half that from the Heat, who could offer only a $3 million annual salary utilizing the taxpayer's mini-midlevel exception. Rivers questioned the notion that Allen will find a bigger role with the Heat.

    "Ray's got to do what's best for Ray," Rivers told Yahoo! Sports. "But having said that, he's not going to start in Miami. And I doubt he gets the ball more. But I do think, for a guy like Ray and Paul (Pierce) and Kevin (Garnett) and Kobe (Bryant), it's easier to go somewhere and do that, than have it taken from you where you're at."

    Focusing on doing what's best for the team instead of worrying about how individual players feel allows him to "coach free," Rivers told Yahoo! Sports.

    "I always tell my guys: If I'm wrong, hopefully I'm smart enough, or my staff, or one of you guys -- because I do listen to you -- will tell me that I'm wrong," Rivers told Yahoo! Sports. "But not one player ever told me, 'Hey, I don't think you should start Avery.'"

    Rivers admitted to being initially "pissed" at Allen, not necessarily for choosing the Heat but for his reasons for not wanting to return to Boston. He added that he rationalized it soon after and since has moved on.

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story...ics-coach-doc-rivers-blames-ray-allen-leaving
     
  2. redwhiteone

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    Also because Doc and Ray know that Boston isn't going to win any rings soon. Shuttlesworth will certainly be the triggerman in Miami just like he wants.
     
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    I thought it was classless that he did that...so it makes sense I guess
    he and Rondo were butting heads
    I knew in the ECF he was going to MIA...and his look towards the end of game 7
    I was like what you laughin at..Rondo, bc he tried..sorry Ray you are past your
    prime, but like doc said its easier to go there than "have it taken from you"
     
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    Yes, they made the Heat better. But, Celtics added some great pieces and I don't think they'll have much of a drop off from last season.
     
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    Doc is correct. I believe pride is why Ray Allen left. He just couldn't handle losing his starting job in Boston to Avery Bradley.
     
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    While Allen is still an amazing player, shooter...father time will always come knocking...I wouldnt be suprised if Allen goes down with an injury this year...not that I wish that...but crazy stuff happens when you mess with good fortune..

    Another reason why Doc is an excellent coach..he really cares about the team above any player...and why his guys play even harder for him down the stretch...and proof is in the pudding(Boston was one game from shocking Miami)
     
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    But he's coming off the bench with the Heat too? What would it have changed, just that he decided to come off the bench on his own terms?
     
  9. yobod

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    Originally Posted by Doc Rivers View Post
    he's not going to start in Miami. And I doubt he gets the ball more. But I do think...it's easier to go somewhere and do that, than have it taken from you where you're at.
     
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    I was a big Ray Allen fan during his Settle days but now he is just too old to produce on consistent basis. He can give you 10 to 15 minutes a game off the bench. That is all.
     
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    This is Doc's point but he explains why it's easier for Ray Allen to accept a bench role in Miami. Going from one of the "Big 3" to a bench role on the same team was too tough for him to handle.

    The answer to your question is probably yes.
     
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    14 PPG with 45% 3p shooting and 91% FT not consistent enough? That was just last season.
     
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    Damn...this actually gave me some feels.

    Rivers willingly becoming the scapegoat for Boston's loss, whether he deserves it or not. I can respect that.
     
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    Definitely. Rivers may mean what he says, but I think he's also trying to take on the potential criticism towards Rondo. No wonder (most) players are so loyal to him.
     
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    mighty black of Doc to take the blame, i echo the respect others above expressed.

    Ray paid his dues and earned the right to play anydamnwhere he chooses. too many so called fans just plain hate player choice.
     
  19. A_3PO

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    What is your definition of a "so called fan"?
     
  20. redlawn

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    I found the article to be really interesting and really admire Doc for taking for some of the flak.

    But it really begs the question. Why did he relegate Ray to the bench?

    From stats, there hasn't been a terribly big dropoff in his game. Yes he is getting older, and yes, he did have that tough shooting stretch during that one playoff series, but Ray's a HOF'er. Is it just that Avery Bradley just meshes better with Rondo on/off the court? (i.e. better defense, no personality issues, etc.)

    Until we get those answers, I find it hard to blame Ray. He's one of the better role models in the game, and he's one of the best pure shooters in the game (still).
     

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