IT seems like alot of folx have given up on PatPat and The draft pick from last year seems like he on his way out of the hearts and minds of Rockets fans too I think we maybe a little quick on the trigger but I could be wrong. Rocket River
If they don't show a couple of flashes of potential by year 9, they are out the door! I'd say at least show something by year 2 and better have consistency by year 3. Morris has shown zero at this point especially compared to the rookies in summer league. I just feel the rookies and Parsons have more upside than Patterson or Morris and thats why I move them ahead.
It depends on the situation. Now on his third year, this is Pat's opportunity to prove he can become a starter or he will remain on the backseat; Morris seems to have fallen off Rockets plans in the same vein that Terrence Williams did.
I still like Patterson a lot although last year was disappointing year 1 was nice though I think it depends on the rookie Can you quit on an Anthony Randolph after one year? No Too much raw athletic potential Can you quit on a Jimmer Fredette? Hell yes
Are we seeing the Rookies improving? We need to see something significant in year 2, they don't have to be starters but there needs to be something there that we can see. Certainly I think depending on where they were drafted makes a difference as well. Pat is a good example. In his rookie year he showed: 1. a very nice outside shot 2. the ability to play solid defense 3. some very good athletisism 4. He did not show a desire to rebound 5. he did not show a desire to mix it up in the post on the offensive end settling for jump shots. 6. not very assertive and dissapears at times on the floor In year 2 1. nice outside shot 2. ability to play solid defense 3. loss of athleic ability (due to surgery?) 4. showed no desire to play in the post of offense 5. shows no desire to rebound 6. very passive while on the court, not assertive If anything he regressed but as some said they think it's because of his surgery. That's fine but for two seasons he has shown no desire to rebound or try to be a post presence on offense. IMO we have seen enough to give him another chance but at some point in the season (maybe even in training camp and pre-season) we have to see some improvement. We perticularly need to see some sort of desire to rebound and play in the post on the offensive end. Certainly at the end of the season if PPat has not shown a significant improvement in rebounding and post play then we have seen enough. Marcus Morris is another good example. He showed nothing his rookie year and therefor should be on a very short leash. Morris showed zero ability or desire to play defense or understand the offense. If he shows no or marginal improvement then that is all I need to see and he should be gone at the end of the season.
of the many forwards we have, ppat is definitely worth keeping. 3rd year, is usually when you start to see the true potential. IMO morris is not worth keeping, considering how stacked we are at the 3 too. He has the potential to be a good starter somewhere else, but I'd be fine with white and Parson since both of them can make plays and are great characters to have on this team. morris has neither of those qualities.
I think progression is what matters. I'd give them 3 years to show me they can improve. If they're steadily improving, then they may get 4, 5 years, etc..
3 years for the Salmon to swim upstream. Contractual issues make a 4th year development plan hard to achieve from the teams POV, and the player's financial point of view with securing their 2nd and biggest payday as an NBA player.
For Pat specifically this coming year is it to prove what he is. He has the skill to do many things just doesn't always show it. His jumper is nice when its on but he needs a post up game and to become a beast on defense and the boards to take him to the next level or he'll turn into Mo Taylor.
you need to decline the 4th year option before the season no.3 starts, so it's "contract year" either way.
