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Why do people think we will be bad this year if we don't trade for Howard/Bynum?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. DJGRIND

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    Everyone has known for decades, no one in the media will ever give a Houston team their proper due. No matter who is on the team, or well we do, we will always be considered a one horse town and could never compete with the Knicks or Lakers. This is the same for all sports. Last year, when the Texans were kickin butt with a major part of the starts out with injury, the only time they were covered by ESPN is when we actually beat the Bengals.

    When the Rockets won two championships, sll that was reported was how if Michael Jordan had not retired... you know the rest of the BS...

    So I guess what I am trying to say is, don't worry about it, the Rox will always be the underdog. And I for one love it.
     
  2. Rip Van Rocket

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    I wouldn't be that optimistic. Hakeem played for the Rockets ten years before ever winning title. And a number of those years the Rockets were barely a .500 team. Surrounding a player like Dwight with a bunch of rookies probably won't amount to much.
     
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  3. bberge

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    trading martin would be great but i doubt he has any value right now except as a salary match. if he bounces back, he could be flippable as a mid-season shot in the arm w/ expiring deal in exchange for picks and contractual dead weight.
     
  4. rocketseagles07

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    besides sacramento(maybe), golden state, and portland this team as it's currently constructed isn't better than any other team in the west.
     
  5. gmoney411

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    Why do you think we are going to win so many games with a bunch of rookies and sophomores? You do realize that in 09 the Thunder only won 23 games with Westbrook/Durant/Green which is a group of young guys much better than what we likely have. Young players don't win in this league. Martin is the only real veteran we have on this team that might get minutes and McHale doesn't like him. This team will not win 30 games if we stick with our current roster plus Asik.
     
  6. jtr

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    Well, if we do not land Bynum or Howard we probably will not be as bad as last years Bobcats. But I do not think the squad will even dream about being better (worse?) than a top 7 seed. Especially if Martin is traded at the deadline. It is probably gonna be a rough year.

    The positive side is that after the trade deadline we probably will see a rotation with no one above the age of 24. Lots of young player development. That is a team of the future, not a team for now.
     
  7. Aruba77

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    Portland and Sac-town are both better than us, as currently constructed. Aldridge, Batum, and Llillard are all outstanding players. Lillard will be ROY
     
  8. daspydamayn

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    just because these rookies put up good numbers against other rookies/scrubs in summmer league, it doesnt mean that they'll do the same against vets.

    look at the teams out west
    sacramento: cousins, robinson, evans, isaiah thomas
    GS: Bogut, curry, lee, young wings
    portland: LA, Lillard, Batum, matthews

    i struggle to think if we're gonna beat toronto (lowry, valanciunas, bargnani, derozan, ross, davis)
     
  9. OremLK

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    What you guys aren't understanding is that it's not a team of rookies.

    Lin - 3rd year player (really more like 2nd, but he should play at a starting caliber level)
    Martin - Veteran 20ppg scorer
    Parsons - 2nd year player who played like a 3rd year player in his rookie season
    Patterson - 3rd year player
    Asik - 3rd year player

    The rookies are backups the way the team is currently structured. And there are a lot of them, and they are pretty NBA ready for rookies, so McHale can play the guys who are performing the best and probably have an OK bench.
     
  10. bbllr3431

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    I think i worded my title wrong yesterday when i said quick rebud. I meant potenially exciting rebuild. The key to developing a great core is having a superstar and hen having your core hit their prime at the same time. What good is it if we get dwight but the rest of our team wpnt catch ip with him until hes out id his prime?

    The reason we should tank is because next years draft is top heavy with great pieces at the biga. I would love to add zeller to tjis core. If youve watched him play hes a consensus top two player and went toe to yoe against davis. Anyways couple the two hopeful lotto picks with crap tons of cap space, houston is best served using this year as a developmental year.

    On to the point that our team is he same. Honestly i dont think so.

    1) asik is unproven. He hasnt logged more than 15 minutes and when he has hes been underwhelming. Plus hes foul prone
    2) pur first and third options on offense are gone. Who will pick up the scoring without scola, dragoc, and lowry?
    3) backcourt defense is terrible. However team defense is more important in the nba and with completley new players and a bunch of rookies on the rotation, otll take time to develop cohesion.
    4) rookies arent starting but theyre compromising our bench and well depend on them theoughout the season... Depending on rookies is hit or miss.
    5) look at the west.... Who are we better then?

    Sa?
    Okc?
    Lal?
    Lac?
    Mem?
    Den?
    Dal?
    Utah?
    Gsw?
    Min?
    Were comparable to pdx, no, and sac and even then they have established superstars, better rookie talent and more cohesion going for them.
     
  11. bbllr3431

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    Sorry for the spelling mistakes! Im on my tablet and dont know how to cursor over to fix words without deleting the whole sentence
     
  12. rocketseagles07

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    lol you're right, I just couldn't put us below EVERYONE smfh. Yea it's gonna be a longgggg year...
     
  13. dfbreyes

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    Yes, Dwight Howard could be a superstar.He reminds though of a youthful Kevin Willis.

    For some reason, I'm not totally convinced that Howard will be next superstar who will take the Rockets to the finals. I mean, he's no Hakeem Olajuwon, or neither is he the next Charles Barkley or Moses Malone.

    Is he good? Yes. Would he play in Houston though?

    I'm pretty sure we can find another future superstar center without the sourpuss drama excess baggage.

    We need a Larry Smith who blocks shots and rebounds.

    If Dwight doesn't want to play in Houston, then let him play where he wants to.
     
  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    wow dude you're r****ded.
     
  15. gmoney411

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    You just listed a starting lineup with only 2 players that have experience as an every day starter and one of them is a second year player from a shortened season. Also, it is very likely that Martin doesn't play heavy minutes because McHale doesn't think he fits into his offense and we have a young rookie that could use the minutes. Add in that most of these guys have never played together and we are in for a season with a lot of growing pains. The old Rockets won because we had veterans that had been playing together for years. You are greatly underestimating how important experience and chemistry is in the NBA.
     
  16. Bublanski

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    i want us to be bad this year. get high end draft picks plus the cap space to sign not one but two stars.
     
  17. teebone21

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    A thread full of people with loser mentality, this is sickening
     
  18. Aruba77

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    yes. denial is the real man's mentality :rolleyes:
     
  19. SlimJim25

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    This.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    the key is getting rid of Martin. Without him we can suck and get a top 5 pick...although Lin is a curveball.

    If we keep Martin, we might be stuck back in mediocrity. Losing Scola does help us suck more though - so that's helpful.

    Lin and Martin are the guys who can keep us out of a top 5 pick.
     

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