You can disagree... http://nbadraft.net/players/jeremy-lamb But Lamb came into the year as pretty much a consensus top 5 pick. Several things dropped him down to 10. One thing being his frame, another thing which really hurt him was the team success and you have to remember they did not play the entire year with their coach, another thing was an injury. Lamb was a top 5 prospect for most of the year. These things nipped him down to where he was picked.
Don't think that's a fair comparison. Greene had ONE big game and was practically traded because of that game. He didn't do anything else for the rest of the summer league. Our rookies are keeping up their level of performance across several games. Not saying it will translate to the NBA, but these performances, if anything, demonstrate raw talent.
Why give up our special young players, our cap room, and lottery pick for a one year rental on Dwight Howard? Plus if its for Bynum, I would only give up one rookie, and one draft pick but any more than that, no because Bynum is injury prone. Anything for Dwight Howard is not worth it because he's leaving this team next season. Lin is not something that will make him stay. I don't care what you guys think but Dwight wants to play alongside a superstar and he doesn't want to be in Houston so stop believing that he will stay. Plus he's not even fully healthy yet and he won't be able to start the regular season. So we don't know his status yet. So why risk it for a guy that won't stay here, not even healthy and his status is unknown, and we don't even know how he would perform when he gets back on court.. I'm just saying that Dwight Howard sounds enticing but imagine how would you guys feel when he leaves this team while our rookies are looking very good in Orlando.
Plus our rookies are doing more than just standing outside and spotting up. Our rookies are shooting nice jumpshots, slashing to the goal, creating their shot, dishing the ball well and rebounding the ball. They are playing at a high consistent level while Greene only did well in one game..
Motiejunas is staying. I would give up either Parsons or Lamb in a package for Dwight. Sure its a gamble but i would take it. Like some people, i can roll with a rebuilding young team, develop em and eventually get more lottery picks but if given a chance to acquire the best center in the NBA even on a possible rental.. I'd do it in a heartbeat! It's all about weighing the pros and cons in a Dwight gamble. And here are a few reasons you would risk it.. 1. A trade to his desired team (Brooklyn) is highly unlikely given Lopez's max contract. Morey would laugh at that deal. 2. If acquired, the Rockets can offer him the largest contract. Best example here would be Deron Williams. D-Will didn't plan to re-sign with the Nets but its just too much money to walk away from in the end since he could only get that big of a contract with Brooklyn. Hence, him inking that new deal with the Nets. 3. Linsanity + Superman = Global recognition. Some may argue that Jeremy Lin won't sway Dwight into re-signing with the Rockets. Well, i beg to disagree. With the acquisition of Jeremy Lin, Houston will be media darlings yet again not to mention the billions of Chinese fans we once had with Yao. Heck T-Mac had the number one selling jersey in China. 4. Most of the big market cities/teams are capped out and won't be able to sign Howatd. Lets say he walks an becomes an UFA. So he chooses to decline the biggest contract offer which would come from the Rockets ($25mil more than any other team) to sign with whom? Again, based on his resume alone, you have to take the gamble. We're tired of mediocrity and basketball purgatory aren't we?
Maybe we are buying high on Dwight? The injury. The flakiness. I'll be more disappointed if we get Dwight than if we don't but I'll get over it in time.
Funny you throw the primary reason for his dropping as the last "another thing." Most NBA analysts have said that if not for his ankle injury that kept him from working out for teams, Lamb would have gone top 5. Dude is a serious talent at a position that is becoming depleted in the NBA. What people don't realize is that this is NOT the sell high point for these rooks. if you just watch them, watch the extreme athletic talent and the tempo and chemistry/style they play with, you can tell these dudes are going to put up some great performances and numbers in the pre and regular season. At the trade deadline, we'd likely be able to move just one of them along with Martin and picks for Dwight. These MFers are that good.
Just like with everything, if it's for the RIGHT price. Then do it. When you get attached to something, it blurs your rationality.
I've learned from following baseball that getting prospect boners can cause fans to sort of lose touch with reality. That said, I'd be upset to see D-Mo or Lamb get moved. On the other hand, I felt the same way about Patterson around this time last year. Meh. I'd like to keep Parsons, Lamb, and D-Mo. But if we make a move for Howard or Bynum, we'll probably lose at least one of them, and I've accepted that.
Agreed, I just listing the reasons why he dropped and none of the negatives on Lamb were too concerning like say Drummond or PJ3 who also were once top 5 prospects before dropping. Also that yeah this isn't the high point to even sell them if you wanted to. If some of you believe that 'It's just summerleague' and 'Donte Greene' then why wouldn't NBA GMs feel the same? Think there is a good chance that one of these guys value is going to sky rocket as the season goes on. My bet is on Lamb or D-Mo but White and Jones have been super impressive as well.
Guys its been said before but we can't trade D.Mo anyways till after Jan 15. Which is why I'm afraid of Dwight's trade, if it doesn't happen soon I'm really not excited about giving up D.Mo/Martin/Lin+rookies/picks for a shot at Dwight Howard. I mean I'd rather develop my players if it gets to that point to be honest.
Well I completely disagree. From actually following both of the draft's that each player was in, you can easily make the case that each guy was a top 5 talent for their respective draft. Not to mention that in summer league, they have out played their peers, some of whom were drafted well a head of them. Jeremy Lamb has clearly out played Bradley Beal, 3rd overall pick, and Dion Waiters, 4th overall pick. Donatas Motiejunas has clearly out played Jan Vesely, 6th overall pick (2011), and Enes Kanter, 3rd overall pick (2011). ------------ As for the idea, which some of the poster's are putting out there, that neither of these guy's have high ceiling because they were drafted as mid-first rounders or that a players draft slot is somehow correlated to his ceiling, is literally the dumbest and most nonsensical thing I've ever heard!
I only think fans overrate summer league players and not GM's so I don't know if we'll exactly get high value for them.
If Howard was physically,mentally healthy and willing to sign an extension , I would be willing to sell high. I would try to retain Parsons and get Lee back.
I actually beg to differ on Lamb, first off he had played consistently better then any of the shooting guards drafted ahead of him in the draft and really been more consistent then most his draft mates! And his shooting ability? Athletic ability and approach to the game all suggest this is more then a fluke, of Kevin Martin put up 20 points per in this league with his funky game Lambs ceiling is at least that high!
