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So Rudy can coach now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Free Agent, Jan 8, 2003.

  1. Free Agent

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    I love it when the haters have to shut their pie hole. The same Rudy bashers who come around after a loss have nothing to say after a win.

    Winning seems to to cure a lot of problems and I love it.

    The Yao field goal percentage talk is quieted.

    The Eddie Griffin loathers are picking lint out of their belly buttons.

    What I'm getting at is the arm chair point guards shouldn't overreact after just one or two games. At least let the Rockets get to the halfway point of the season and do some evaluating then.

    The Rockets have proven they can beat good teams. That factor alone keeps my hope of a playoff run alive. When it's all said and done this season I think they will end up owning the bad teams.

    Hate on, haters.
     
  2. RIET

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    The Rockets have always shown they can play team ball. The issue is why theyy don't consistently.

    Definitely a big win tonight. Back to Back, on the road, against a pretty good team.
     
  3. SmeggySmeg

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    Cut Tino and Get Rud of Riddy!!!!
     
  4. francis 4 prez

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    i believe we are supposed to get riddy of ruddy.










    of course you probably know that and were just joking around, i just don't want any newbies getting the lingo wrong.
     
  5. cmellon

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    My prediction to Rudy haters' answer to your thread:

    Damn....
    Rudy has costed us many many previous games. If not for Rudy, Rockets score is much better and they are at least 3rd seed by now. We want the playoff, and we want the championship ring THIS YEAR! Fire Rudy!
     
  6. rocketfat

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    what a stupid, stupid post. i mean, do the people who still somehow think Glen Rice can still play say what an awesome player he is directly AFTER a game where he shoots 2-18?

    there is no point in beating a dead horse. the people who think rudy isn't coaching the team as well as it could be coached aren't going to think differently when we string a few wins together.

    you rudy worshippers give him all the credit for wins, and no blame for the losses.

    i, for one, am on the fence. i like rudy, and want to see him as coach of the team, but, i think he's made some very questionable decisions this year, i.e. rice's pt, nachbar's lack of pt, and, mainly, i question his motivational skills. he can't get this team to get up to run the lesser teams out of the gym, which we all know this team is capable of doing. it's those losses to the teams that we should be beating which are going to cost us a higher seed. i feel that his coaching DID cost us some games this season, cmellon, and, to be honest, i would rather see the players on the court losing us games, then the coach.
     
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  7. Israel's son

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    How do you decide if a game is lost by a player or a coach? I mean how many games has Rudy lost for us this season. When we win a game was it because of Rudy or despite Rudy. You people who think that because of a win, Rudy bashers will shut up are dead wrong. However, that is only if it can be explained to a reasonable objective person how a coach looses a game.
     
  8. rocketfat

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    I don't really understand your post, IS, but I'll clear up my personal point of view the best i can:

    it doesn't make sense to give him all the credit for a win, or all the credit for a loss. but, one example of how he has possibly cost us games with questionable coaching (in my opinion of course): so far this season, particularly earlier games when he was getting more playing time, Rudy was playing Rice 30+ minutes/game, and game in and game out, he was producing nothing, and killing us on the defensive end. any fan could see that. nevertheless, rudy continued to stubbornly play rice 30 minutes+, regardless of performance. and we have lost many many close games already. rice not playing so many minutes, and giving those minutes to players who don't suck could have possibly made a difference in the outcome of several of those losses, and that i blame on rudy.
     
  9. rocketfat

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    Answer still=no.
     
  11. leebigez

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    I still think he doesn't adjust enough. When teams get on runs or the rockets struggle, he still kinda do the same things. His authority over this team is probably the biggest question mark. Why did it take Old Ass Glen to say something about the lack of passing. Its easy to let veteran teams kind of police themselves, but younger teams need more of a direction.To his credit or to his fault, he's a players coach. 2 wins against 2 teams that you clrealy have more talent than isn't that surprising. I juust hope the message of sharing the ball continues and will propel this team up the standings.
     
  12. zenkle

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    I think many critiques to Rudy cannot be justified after a while. I saw some bbser here clamored Rudy to use Cato as a PF. But the point is Rudy Knew the possibility and DID give it a try. I also saw some bbser blamed Rudy for his cautious use of Posey. But the point is Posey gets more and more mins recently. Rudy is not a bonehead. Actually I believe he considers all these issues while all those impatient bbsers blamed him for his ignorances.

    Yes, Rockets lost some games to the teams which they should have won. But Portland lost games, Lakers lost games, even Minnesota lost games of this kind as well. Why we only focus our fire on Rudy? Bball is not flat, nor cube. Bball is round, and everything can happen in some games at some special nights. Bull's best standing is 72-10. According to those Rudy critics, Bull should have won all the games in that year, and create the record of 82-0! Yes, they are better than all other teams. So they CANNOT lose to any other teams. If Bulls really did that, so the critiques to Rudy may be partially established. But even Bulls cannot do it, is it fair to give a concluaion or acrimonious condemnation to Rudy when it is not even 1/2 of the seasons?

    Please think and be patient. Rudy did have problems in some games' coaching. But he shows all the important qualificiations as a good coach. I don't think any other better coach are available on the market.
     
  13. danjojo

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    Rudy has made plenty of horrible decisions this season. He has not been able to get this team to play together much. We've lost to some really bad teams this year which seems to be the only consistent aspect of the Rockets' play.

    We've been playing better the last 2 games but it's impossible to say that it is because of coaching...we'll only be able to answer that question in a few weeks. Any team in the league can win 2 staright games but you do not erase 2 months of a season in 2 games...
     
  14. Dennis2112

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    Well Rudy is not the greatest coach ever but he is the greatest coach that the Rockets have ever had.

    Rudy has shown that he can take a veteran team and show them the way to victory. Now he has a chance to show a young team the way. The real problem is that a young team takes longer to see the light.

    Rudy trying to do what very few coaches have done is recent history. Take a franchise to the championships and then completely, and I mean completely, rebuild the team back to greatness. It takes time to find and assemble the pieces and then it takes time to mesh the pieces together.

    I like what I see and I am very excited about the future. Championships are not on the immediate horizon but they are well within reach over the next few years. Patience and understanding are the keys to success.

    Rudy has his faults but he is still one of the top coaches in the league...period.
     
  15. montgo

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    Great win and well coached.

    There were moments though where you had to wonder why the offense ran ragged for up to 5 minutes and leads are constantly lost. This is a young team that requires harnessing occassionally and Rudy tends to pull the plug to late. That has been his operandi. He stays with his lineups through the muck hoping for flow. Sometimes this hurts us significantly. Rudy also is not a hardcore directional coach...meaning he let's players freelance, which is cool with Vets. With all this said, though, he is a good coach and has proven he can win.

    So let's quit judging game by game his overall coaching ability and let the mid point go by and end of the season. Judge his moves, but just because he makes a bad decision or makes a questionnable call does not mean we "can" him.
     
  16. luckystrikes

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  17. Free Agent

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    Calm down.

    The point of the thread is to call out the overreactors. That's all.
     
  18. dwmyers

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    Amen to that. I wonder what the Rudy bashers would be doing if we have Don Chaney running this team?

    Dave
     
  19. Raven

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    Let me introduce you to reality.

    It was Glen Rice who had the balls to say the team (guards) was not passing the ball enough, not Rudy.

    Give credit to Glen Rice for doing what Rudy doesn't have the stomach to do.

    Raven
     
  20. rocketfat

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    ya know...i'm all in favor of removing rice from the roster and making him an assistant coach. granted, he would be the highest paid coach in sports history, but i can live with that sacrifice, as long as i never have to go through the agony of watching him on the court again.:D
     

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