darn, I JUST saw that.....anyway, see my post in that thread. It was just quoting something someone else said, and replying to it.....
So the asst. coach is a doctor? well, is he? I'm proud you're so optimistic, but face it man, his professional career is over before it even got started.
His assessment is more valid than anyone's on this BBS, unless they are a doctor. See Robert Edwards.
actually no. I'm not the one making generalizations. You're the one that said, "I told you all his career was over." without any valid proof to back it up. Then you told everyone to listen to you from now on. I just wanted to open your eyes to the fact that its not 100% and used Edwards as an example. Oh ****, the Steelers just scored. I'm done responding to this thread. I'm missing a great game!
It was the first thing I said when I saw the replay live during the game. It was the first thing I said when I posted after the hit. But using Robert Edwards as an example doesn't make much sense, considering the numerous players who have had their careers ended because of much less severe injuries. Of course there's a chance he'll come back, there's always a chance. But I wouldn't put any money on it. But I'm still pulling for him. There's nothing I'd like to see more than him put a jersey on again.
I will be very surprised if comes back within the next 18 months, several players in Aussie Rules have has this injury and one of them took two years to return, one year for the ACL and then 12 months after the initial injury had had the PCL repaired and other had them all repaired at the same time, took over 15 months to get back. I have no doubts he can get back but it will take some time, the level of cartiledge damage will also slow his recovery.
shows how much the assistant coach knows...... http://espn.go.com/ncf/bowls02/s/fiesta_mcgaheesurgery.html Doctors found torn anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments but no tear to the posterior collateral ligament. Assistant coach Don Soldinger said Saturday that McGahee had torn all three ligaments.
Here's the whole article. The surgeon said the procedure went pretty well... ---------------- CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Miami running back Willis McGahee had surgery Sunday on two torn ligaments in his left knee following a crushing hit during a Tostitos Fiesta Bowl loss to Ohio State. The All-American sophomore and Heisman Trophy finalist was operated on for four-to-five hours at HealthSouth Doctors Hospital, next to the campus, school spokesman Doug Walker said. He is expected to be released Monday. Dr. John Uribe, who performed the surgery, declined to set a timetable for McGahee's return. "Willis tolerated the procedure very well," Uribe said in a statement. "If nature does its job and his rehabilitation goes well, he should be able to make a full recovery." The damage appeared to be less serious than expected. Doctors found torn anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments but no tear to the posterior collateral ligament. Assistant coach Don Soldinger said Saturday that McGahee had torn all three ligaments. "It was not reconstruction of the knee," Eugene Poole, McGahee's older half-brother, told the Miami Herald. McGahee was injured early in the fourth quarter of Friday's game, a 31-24 double-overtime victory by Ohio State for the national championship. He took a screen pass from Ken Dorsey on third-and-10 from the Ohio State 35 and was hit by Will Allen for a 2-yard loss. McGahee had to be helped from the field. He was in severe pain much of the night, coaches said. McGahee had torn the ACL in the same knee during his senior season at Miami Central High School. His rehabilitation lasted seven months, the Herald said. "He told me that the pain was not as bad as last time," Poole told the newspaper. "The swelling was down the next day." Poole said McGahee, who ran for a school-record 1,686 yards and 27 touchdowns this season, had not decided whether he would turn pro after this, his third season at Miami. He redshirted his first year. "We were going to weigh the options after this game," Poole said. "He was going to talk to a personal lawyer and the family about it. He didn't want to bother with it during the season. We didn't get a chance to talk about it." Poole told the Herald that McGahee had not taken any steps to enter the draft but he still might consider it. "It depends on what they tell him about his knee," Poole said. "Going pro might be an option."
Unfortunately I think McGahee finds himself in a very bad situation. If he stays at Miami, there is a pretty decent chance he will never start again. I have heard that it is widely believe that Gore is better than McGahee. Therefore, even if he makes it all the way back from injury, he will have a tough battle for PT. If he comes out, it is clear that he is a huge injury risk and has a good chance of slipping to the late rounds. If it was a break or something I think he would still go first round. Unfortunately, ligament damage has an unfortunate way of repeating itself and leading to chronic problems. Being drafted as a late-rounder or signed as a free agent, he will have to earn a spot on a team coming off of a long and trying rehab assignment. It doesn't look good for him; I was really hoping he could bolster the Texans offense next year. I wish him the best of luck.
Frank Gore is awesome. He scored like 68 touchdowns in high school. He was going to be 2nd string TB behind Portis until he injured his knee in the spring game. Of course, Portis went pro, so that is how McGahee went from 3rd string to starter. Unfortunately, from what I have heard, there is a chance that Gore may still NOT be ready by the season opener against La Tech, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. As for Willis, I think he almost has to return to Miami just for the rehab purposes. I think that if his rehab goes well, that he will go pro, but I think his rehab will be longer than he thinks it will be.
Personally I think that McGahee is EXTREMELY lucky that he still has two years of eligability left. It will likely take him about 1-2 years to fully recover from this injury. Obviously he will be out all of next year. That will allow Gore time to shine. Gore will likely be gone to the NFL by the time McGahee is ready to start again. Since McGahee still has two years left he will be able to rebuild his stock at Miami before entering the draft.
Yep. Derrick Nix of USM is an example. I believe he had a kidney ailment his junior season so he sat out one whole year. In his season season (this past year) the kidney ailment flared up again. He was 12 yards shy of breaking the USM career rushing record, did not get to play in the Houston Bowl, and will not be drafted. What's really sad is he was perfectly healthy till he injured his ankle. He took inflammatories which unfortunately had a bad reaction to his body.
Good point. If Gore goes pro after next year, it would give McGahee a window to re-establish himself. However, who knows how many star running backs Miami will have recruited by then. Atleast a few I presume, but Willis has a ton of talent and I can see him making a comeback.
Decision could secure McGahee's financial future -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Associated Press MELBOURNE, Fla. -- Miami tailback Willis McGahee took out a $2.5 million insurance policy two weeks before he was injured in the Fiesta Bowl and can collect after a year if the injury prevents him from returning to football, a Florida newspaper reported. Insurance agent Keith Lerner of Gainesville told Florida Today that the policy was signed and put into effect just prior to the national championship game, the newspaper said in a story for Tuesday editions. That last-minute decision could end up securing McGahee's financial future if he's unable to play again. The sophomore rushed for a school-record 1,686 yards and 27 touchdowns this season, and was projected to be a top NFL draft pick had he turned pro early. McGahee sustained a severe injury to his left knee in the fourth quarter of the 31-24 loss to Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. "I just visited him in the hospital and told him that my hope is, and that everybody's hope is, that you're going to the NFL and make a substantial amount of money,'' Lerner said Monday night. "But if he doesn't, he's got something to fall back on.'' McGahee had surgery Sunday at HealthSouth Doctors Hospital, next to the Coral Gables campus. Doctors repaired torn anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments and are hopeful he could eventually play again. If not, he'll get $2.5 million minus taxes, Lerner said. He said McGahee will be eligible to collect Jan. 3, 2004 -- one year from the date of the injury. Dr. John Uribe, who performed the surgery, declined to set a timetable for McGahee's return but said he should make a complete recovery. Lerner, president of the financial consulting firm Total Planning, has written numerous insurance policies for college stars. Lerner told Florida Today he wrote a policy for McGahee in late December with Lloyd's of London, after McGahee contacted him. The coverage officially started Dec. 20. The final medical forms were sent to Lloyd's of London the day of the Fiesta Bowl, Lerner said. McGahee's premium was about $20,000, paid for with a loan taken out by McGahee's family, Lerner told the newspaper. "It was a real, real smart decision on his behalf,'' Lerner said. "He wanted to get as much insurance as he could. The ironic thing about it is that he waited so late in the season to get it that he got a lot more coverage than he could have at the beginning of the season.'' Insurance policies for college athletes not taken out directly through the NCAA's program can be done by independent writers. Lerner insured four Hurricane players a year ago that went on to become first-round picks: Bryant McKinnie, Mike Rumph, Phillip Buchanon and Ed Reed. Former Florida defensive tackle Ed Chester, another former Lerner client, suffered a similar knee injury in his senior season for the Gators in 1998 and collected the following fall on a $1 million policy. I guess its better than nothing but merely a fraction of what he would have made in the NFL with a 100% healthy knee.
that is so nasty i can't figure out how his body is positioned in the photo. for starters, where's his other leg? is that his butt or his groin we are looking at?
