The unique nature of the Rockets package to Orlando

And Brooks/Horford will not be good enough to get you past the first round (at best), nor get you a second star to join. And teens pick is about all you can expect.

Bynum can probably be a franchise cornerstone, but before Orlando can get out of their other bad contracts, Bynum may want to jump ship and potentially leave Orlando with another Dwight Howard problem, and it is doubtful Orlando can get a better package out of Bynum than Howard.

 

Dwight is coming to Houston. We should all get used to it.

 

dont want D12 - dont need a year of diva drama...

that said, we dont have a center we can throw in (cept maybe s/t camby...) If we still had Sams unique contract - or took Melo at 18... i gotta believe it would b a better overall package... Unlike DM, I dont think other gms look at stockpiling 'value' - but rather the team theyre gonna put on the floor... imo

 

Anybody but Turk!

 

Non-stars = non-future

Not a single person on our roster is or will be a franchise player. Chances are slim that we'd see more than one or two all-star reserve appearances out of all of them together.

There's really nothing to freak out about holding on to.

 

Yep, Lopez is such a big loser that he is still better than any big the Rockets can muster up.

That's kind of why Orlando is dragging their feet with any deals for Dwight. Nothing jumps off the table, except a deal for Bynum. The Rockets have nice young pieces, but it's only potential at this point. They haven't produced anything, yet. Another drawback, none of them are solid big men/centers or even what you would call a star.


If Orlando got a team, like OKC or New York involved, they'd be more apt to deal Howard quickly.

Most of the deals with New Jersey, Houston, Atlanta, and Golden State are downright laughable considering Dwight Howard is on the table.

 

The way I see it...

Houston has the best offer on the table. I do not at all doubt this. In terms of what the Magic want, Morey is able to check off every request.

The new GM is not stupid. He knows Houston has the best offer but he is also trying to do his job and get the most he can out of us. Nets trade rumor? Leaked in order to put pressure on Houston to include additional picks.

I don't believe the new GM has any interest in getting Hortford, Brooks, or Bynum. These guys are 'good' but have bloated contracts. Does he believe either could lead a playoff team and/or attract free agents? His experience with Thunder, has proven to him that a successful team is built through the draft and cap flexibility. Getting either Bynum, Hortfod, or Brooks would place them in the middle of the pack for years. In addition, these huge contracts would limit their ability to build around said players.

If I'm the Magic's GM, I have 2 primary goals: Get future 1st rounders and youth on small contracts.

I think the hold up between Magic and Houston rests on future 1st rounders and issues with protections being placed by Morey in addition to absorbing Hedo's contract.

 

That's why Orlando is dragging their feet, if it were a package of say "Ibaka and Westbrook or Harden (not both)" or "Marc Gasol and Rudy Gay."
The catch-22 is Dwight Howard, he's not signing an extension with those teams.

 

Maybe not 10 years, but if we took on Orlando's bad contracts (which wouldn't leave after a year's rental), gave up our youth and future draft picks, it could take awhile to start rebuilding. Plus even with Olando's trash and whatever we retained, we still wouldn't be much worse than we are now. So our picks wouldn't be much better and we'd have even less to trade up with. At least until all of the bad contracts expire.

 

You just never know about situations like this. Either way, it doesn't end well for the Rockets when Howard leaves.
I like Howard just as much as the next fan, but i love my team more.

 

Even teams with horrible contracts can be lottery teams :grin:

I don't care about bad contracts. The issue is with our future 1sts. I'm okay with giving them up WITH protections. Protections would potentially offset some of the risk of losing Howard, e.g we can give up our 2014 1st pick with a Top 3 protection.

 

As much as i hate it, you maybe right.

 

i'll never put up with his drama if he does indeed come, so he better come with a new attitude.

...but he's not coming. sorry.

 

He's not coming. Especially with the Lakers/Bynum in the mix.

 

Deals laughable because other than New Jersey, it's a rental risk. If Dwight will commit to whichever team that trades for him, you'll get a different list of offers for sure

 

I love how some of you insist on justifying the Rockets' chances of getting Dwight Howard, somehow...someway.

It's not going to materialize.

 

It’s a matter of opinion, but I think a team of Turkgolu, Scola, Matin, Lowry(?), Duhon and Richardson will likely need more than top 3 protection. Considering some of the teams in East, we might require protection up to the first 8-12 spots. Yeah this team would be even harder to watch, but it wouldn't be the worst team out there. And who knows what protections we'd have to end up giving.

 

My thoughts exactly. Good post.