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Ohio State Is Doing Exactly What They Needed to Do

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Manny Ramirez, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. Perl Ghost

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    What could SIX people do? The Cat sounds like a character.
    {The Cat} Let us revolt
    {Random Chatter} Yeah!
    {Random Chater } Yeah, but how
    {The Cat} We are so bad.... I don't know.
     
  2. dimsie

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    Yeah, what *can* six people do? And how do you 'revolt' on a message board, anyway? 'Storm the BBS! Release the smilies from their prison!' I mean, huh?

    I'm just a big gossip hound. :)
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    LOL :D.

    I was actually there...there was a post on the BBS saying "Come into the chat room", I was bored and curious what that was about, so I went in...it was odd and funny in a way.

    All I can say is that I did not go in there to "revolt", but just because I was curious :).

    Like Crisco, I have to agree that it is horrible when someone just cannot ever admit they were wrong. This is something Manny did in his apology thread and it shows that he might be just a bit more mature than The Cat - Cat, I have seen endless threads where you make the same point over and over and over again - especially when it comes to Mo Taylor or Mobley. Also, when it is evident that you have been wrong, you will come up with something like "Yeah, but...". We are all guilty of that, but I have seen it quite a bit in your case.

    Also, Manny, thanks for starting that apology thread. Without it, I would have never looked into this thread here. I would have missed some great entertainment ;).
     
  4. Behad

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    Me too! :D
     
  5. 4chuckie

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    Guys just made it home- what a week!
    Buckeye fans were out in force in both Vegas and Phoenix. Crazy time!
    Bought a ticket to the game but turned out to be fake, so I lucked into a connection who got me in.
    This was the greatest college football game ever, at least from an OSU perspective, but even in the history of the BCS.
    It was seiously like a home game inside the stadium. 85% in scarlet and gray. Freakng awesome.
    I am sorry about Maghee, too bad it ended his season.

    But my Bucks were awesome! The D played great (Wilhelm, Doss, Cie Grant, Simon Frasier were all awesome). CRAIG FREAKIN KRENZEL did what he needed to do. Gave up his body to win the game.
    To Coach Tressel, the classiest man in this great state, thank you for showing us how to win.
    Partying afterwards was crazy. There had to be 200,000 Buckeye fans in Tempe. Absolutely nuts.

    Anyways guys good luck!

    Go Bucks!

    2003 Champions!
     
  6. drapg

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    The Hurricanes message board is talking about a Buckeye fan that nearly killed himself when he jumped off a 35 foot scaffolding to grab a Miami flag. He missed and landed on the ground headfirst. Apparently his fall was broken by some bushes and he was conscious and speaking when they took him away.

    Anyone else hear about this?
     
  7. michecon

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    LOL Manny. This is the most talented homer excuses of all time. Yeh, Miami has more TOs and lost the game, but this shows Miami is a better team right there!! :D
     
  8. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Well, I have been doing some thinking and I have come to the conclusion that I will never get over this loss.

    I started searching for stuff on the web about Miami's team next year and found a BBS for Miami fans.

    I know, I know - all biased right?

    Take a look at this article that was written in a Richmond, Virginia paper:



    After further review, Miami got the short end

    BOB LIPPER
    TIMES-DISPATCH COLUMNIST Jan 08, 2003

    Just so you don't think I'm being rash or leaping to conclusions here, I waited four days to write this column - one day for each second Terry Porter waited before tugging a piece of cloth from his pocket and tossing it to the sagebrush-country turf in Tempe, Ariz., last Friday night.

    Believe me, I thought twice about what I was about to do. I went round and round in my mind over the sentence construction. I weighed one adjective against the other. I closed my eyes and contemplated the general concept of the column - just to make certain I saw the big picture the same way I saw it when I went to bed early Saturday morning.

    I am now prepared to state my case with 100-percent conviction.

    Miami's Hurricanes got hosed.

    Please, Buckeye Nation, hear me out. This isn't a slap at Ohio State. The Buckeyes were terrific in the Fiesta Bowl. They were aggressive on defense, resilient, tough, creative, exceptional in the clutch.

    They were everything you'd want in a national champion, in other words.

    Everything except the legitimate winner.

    This was a game the should've ended in the first overtime with Miami on top 24-17 and the ball bobbling free in the end zone after an incomplete OSU pass. The game instead proceeded to another play and then another overtime and, finally, a 31-24 Buckeyes win because Terry Porter made a crummy decision and then tried to justify it by saying he'd acted more like Solomon than Judge Roy Bean in extending Ohio State's season and chances against the Hurricanes.

    Porter is an official of 20 years standing on the Division I level. I will not question his credentials. I do question his eyesight and judgment. What Porter saw was Miami defensive back Glenn Sharpe committing pass interference in the end zone. What Porter did was - after a four-second delay - throw his flag to signal a penalty. What happened next was Ohio State got another play, forced the second overtime, scored a touchdown, stiffed Miami and won.

    Except Porter was dead wrong. Was there contact between Sharpe and Ohio State receiver Chris Gamble? Yeah, some - but not enough one way or the other to draw a flag from an official closer to the play. Did Sharpe climb over Gamble's back before the ball arrived in order to make the deflection? Not even close. Sharpe had as good a shot at the pass as Gamble. He knocked the ball away with his right hand, the ball hit the ground, Miami's kids began celebrating, Ohio State was done.

    But just for four seconds.

    That's how long it took Porter to make his call. "I replayed it in my mind," he said. "I wanted to make sure it was the right call."

    Oh, really. And when he hit the instant-replay button, what did he see? The precise same vision he witnessed in real time? A fuzzily edited rendition? A entirely different version starring Vin Diesel as Glenn Sharpe and Mister Rogers as Chris Gamble, the poor wideout who's maimed just before the game-tying pass reaches his fingertips?

    This did-I-see-what-I-think-I-saw? process is about as bogus as Rosemary Woods zapping Richard Nixon's tape recorder. If the penalty is obvious - and it darn well better be in that situation - then throw the flag. If it's not, keep the cloth in your pocket and go get a hot shower.

    One argument some people have made to justify robbery is that the game shouldn't have come down to an official's ruling. They're right. Miami committed five turnovers. It didn't stop a fourth-and-14 pass that would've settled the issue four plays before Porter's flag flew. It couldn't respond to Ohio State's final TD with one of its own.

    But that reasoning ignores the fact the game did come down to an official's call. No call, game's over, Miami wins. It took me fewer than four seconds to write that sentence. Didn't have to think it over either.



    It is so damn refreshing to see at least one person who is NOT affiliated with Miami in any way speak the truth.

    I was reading on that site that Mike Doss admitted to Dan Patrick or the Sporting News or somewhat that he felt that call was a bogus call!

    I won't say anymore about it, but I still seethe over that play.

    Here's the link:
     
  9. drapg

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    I wrote a column stating that Miami got screwed, and I have no emotional ties to either team and no vested interest in either participant.
     
  10. mduke

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    Everything except the legitimate winner.

    This was a game the should've ended in the first overtime with Miami on top 24-17 and the ball bobbling free in the end zone after an incomplete OSU pass.


    Actually, it should have ended BEFORE the 1st overtime with OSU on top 17-14. I guess Rocketman95 and I do agree on one thing.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Exactly.

    Maybe Miami fans and New York Giant fans can get together to have one big pity party so we can just get it over with. Jeez.
     
  12. Major

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    Did Sharpe climb over Gamble's back before the ball arrived in order to make the deflection? Not even close. Sharpe had as good a shot at the pass as Gamble. He knocked the ball away with his right hand, the ball hit the ground, Miami's kids began celebrating, Ohio State was done.


    Of course, he's again referring to the end of the play, whereas the pass interference was apparently called for something that happened earlier.
     
  13. Manny Ramirez

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    Um guess again, duke. I'm sure you and RM95 remember this, but the play clock actually EXPIRED when Krenzel snapped the ball and attempted that pass to Gamble. So, it should have been a delay of game penalty on OSU. But yea, all that matters is that non-call that went for Miami:rolleyes:

    Also, I'm sure the 2 of you remember when Will Allen did a very classy move in doing a throat slashing gesture after he destroyed McGahee's knee. I thought that was a personal foul penalty and 15 yards? But Miami didn't get a first down, they had to kick a 54 yard field goal which was missed (instead of maybe even scoring a touchdown). Forget the Gamble play, Miami probably wins if this is called LIKE it should have been. Damn, I guess that blows this whole bull**** of Gamble being held out of the water now, doesn't it?

    And for the record, I brought this thread back up to point out that a Richmond, VA writer mentioned that Miami got hosed. Let me see...Richmond, VA is ACC country and Va Tech land. I am sure that he would be a biased individual for Miami!
     
  14. mduke

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    Were there some bad calls? Yes. Were they all towards Miami, like you imply? No.

    And for the record, I brought this thread back up to point out that a Richmond, VA writer mentioned that Miami got hosed. Let me see...Richmond, VA is ACC country and Va Tech land. I am sure that he would be a biased individual for Miami!

    I used to live in Texas. So does that mean I couldn't have been biased towards OU?:confused:
     
  15. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Agreed, but the one call that was really bad for Miami was one that had an absolute to it - don't make that call and the game is over. RM95 and you have argued that if there was a penalty called on Miami for holding Gamble when he caught that ball out of bounds, that OSU would have won. Not necessarily, because as I mentioned earlier, that play should have never counted because it was never gotten off in time and there is no guarantee that OSU could have run out of the clock (Miami could have forced them to punt with time left or there could have been a turnover).

    You are misinterpreting here. Let me ask you a question: substitute Miami with Texas, okay. Now, do you think you would find a Norman, OK or Oklahoma City, OK sportswriter writing that Texas got hosed? If you can say yes with a straight face, then maybe there is a lot of love between OU and UT.
     
  16. Manny Ramirez

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    BTW - I am SURE that everyone will change their mind when they read this site, but I am posting it because it is good reading and who knows maybe you will read some things there that you weren't aware of (like the playclock expiring on Krenzel before he tried that pass to Gamble, the one that Gamble was held on but not called, or the throat slashing gesture done by Allen).

     
  17. mduke

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    I know, I was just being difficult;) But who's to say that guy wasn't a Miami fan though?:)
     
  18. Manny Ramirez

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    Well, if he is, he was a closet Miami fan until now, lol.:D
     
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    (like the playclock expiring on Krenzel before he tried that pass to Gamble

    I did notice that.....very surprised they didn't call it.
     
  20. drapg

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    The playclock expired for OSU several times (or was extremely close) and never got called. I can remember a few occasions when I thought the clock expired (they snapped the ball when it read :00) but delay of game wasn't called.

    I can't remember if it worked both ways, but I do remember screaming "delay of game" more than once when OSU had the ball (and nothing being called).
     
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