Thank goodness he had that 6TO 3AST performance against the Knicks because I do not wish to ride anyone's jock.
Not trying to pick on you gr8-1 but that's pretty bad pin yin. I think CY02 thought you were insulting him but it's just a case of bad spelling. My pin yin is rusty but I think you were trying to say: Wuo shi ni guo jia gao ren And thus, the war between gr8-1 and CY02 is prevented
Iactually don't speak Mandarin, and truthfully, I was a bit drunk when I typed it. Did you know what I was trying to say?
Hater??? Moi??? Guess what...I did watch the game. Yes Stevie was the best player that night but so what. He didn't play well, the team didn't play well, and we got humiliated. I'm just stating the obvious and not blinded by your "Stevie can do no wrong." The guy is a point guard and he has to cut down on his turnovers. How can you argue that? Instead, you go out and bring up Cuttino and call Stevie "the golden boy." Get off Steve's nuts and realize that the guy can get better.
Why not? Yao Ming went 5-12 shooting, had only 5 rebounds , 2 TO's, and 5 fouls... and people still ride his jock. C'mon Duhrock, I know you can "hate" better than that. Kiki, You registered in May of 2000, so you've been around long enough to know that Steves turnovers are a much discussed issue. I know you have seen other threads that discuss Steves TO's and that the jury is still out for some folks as to whether or not he will improve. Taking that into account, I have to agree that this is just another attempt to pick at our best player... can you guys at least be original when you try to critisize (bash). P.S. - Yes, Steves TO's are high for a point gaurd, but so are his rebounds and his scoring (which he has to do on this team).
I think that you will find that I along with many other people who defend Steve, do so not because we feel Steve can do no wrong, but because we have grown tired of the incessant b****ing about every player on the roster (mostly Steve and Cat), with the exception of Yao. This has run rampant since we drafted Yao. Even the coach has not been safe. I have no problem with critical analysis of a player and debating ways that they can improve, but this is just harping and rehashing the same crap. If this was all just fair criticism, pointing out the obvious, and not hating, why is it that you don't see threads in regards to how Yao has problems holding his position and ways he can improve... or how Yao's rebounding mechanics are awful (constantly brings the ball down) and ways to stop the ball from consistently being swiped or slapped away from him by smaller players... or how bad his awareness is in the post, again consistently getting balls taken from him... Why? Because so many of you have your blinders on in regards to him and he can do no wrong. Again I have no problem with criticism, but lets at least be fair.
I'm confused...if Stevie is averaging 3.9 turnovers/game and the team record is 3.98, how exactly is he on pace to set the team record? I'm not good at math, but isn't 3.98 > 3.9?
Look, we're all Rockets fans here, so there really isn't a need for personal sniping. Let's just talk good basketball. This thread is just pointing out one of the obvious shortcomings in Steve's game: his propensity to turn the ball over. Some people have a more negative spin while others are more positive . In the end, it's about wanting Steve and the Rockets to be champions. Steve deserves credit for parts of his game that he has improved including leadership ability, shooting %, mid-range J, and trying on defense. He's still got plenty of room for improvement in areas in things like assists, turnovers, over-dribbling, and effective defense. It's understandable to see this discussion re-hashed over and over though. It's like the kid who brings home a report card with 5 A's and one B and all his/her parents talk about is the one B.
Exactly...we want Steve to have straight A's . The same critiques are being rehashed because Stevie hasn't made the adjustments to improve those parts of his game. The kid can be great and people just want to see him fulfill his potential. Why doesn't Yao get criticized liked that. Fairly or unfairly, it because he's a rookie. People assume that his weaknesses will only improve over the years. More likely, they won't all improve and A-train will be correct: Yao will be the most criticized player on the Rox in two years (A future thread: "Why isn't Yao in the top 5 in blocks"). Yao will have his expectations, just as Steve has them now. Let's hope both of them fulfill their potential and shut up us critics
Ha! Was wondering if anyone would ask that. Hopefully this will make sense even though you're not good at math. In his first 15 games, Steve averaged 3.8/game, but in the last 15, he's averaged 4.0/game. So based on the fact that his # of TO/game is trending up, if he were to average 4.05/game for the last 52 games (which would actually be better than his current trend), he would break the record. A little more difficult than a > b, but not much. But this isn't the main reason for the thread...I was more interested in everyone's opinions on if they thought this was a problem, and if so, will it get any better.
BACK TO THE MAIN TOPIC. This is not a problem. A problem would be if Steve was just walking around with the ball and not dribbling. That would be a bad turnover. Another bad turnover would be like giving the ball to John Stockton. But usually the turnovers aren't bad ones. They are usually careless mistakes. He and Cuttino lead the league in minutes played. They play entire games. They have to make mistakes. No one is perfect.
Sorry I know nothing about Mandarin. But let it rest now because I honestly don't want to get into a slagging match with anyone. I love Steve. I love Cuttino. I love Yao Ming. But I want them to improve and win more ball games for us. Is this too much to ask for?
