This makes me want to hold off buying any of the extended versions so I can buy a SUPER extended trilogy a year after ROTK is released.
scratch that...heating mechanical problem in the building therefore the guy i was going to go see the movie with has to saty and fix it...
VesceySux - I meant the EXACT SAME CLIP of UrukHai marching. Like he reused the same clip about 4 times. Laaaaazy.
Saw Two Towers Xmas day ... kick-ass as expected ... more action than the first .... but overall Fellowship was better IMHO. Azim da Dream
Nah, that's what a disguised Kiwi accent sounds like through several layers of masks and makeup. There were a *lot* of NZ soap actors in that film, too (including a guy I once approached drunkenly on the street and asked about future character development, embarrassingly!). The elf that died dramatically played a doctor on our most popular local soap, and also does *piles* of voiceover work. We can't escape from him!
I thought he had a cockney accent, right? "We aint 'ad nothin' to 'et but maggoty bread fer three, stinkin', days."
Nomar, If you thought any group headed by Spielburg would have stayed truer to the books than Peter Jackson, then you must not have made the book movie comparison with Jurassic Park.
I loved that scene, one of my favorites of the film. I especially liked the Uruk-hai yelling out "Fresh meat's for dinner tonight!" (or something like that, can't remember the direct quote) after he killed the Orc.
At least Peter Jackson is a fan of the book. The movie could have been a lot, lot, lot, lot worse. Especially if the director had never read the books. Before I saw Fellowship, I thought to myself 'This movie will either be a complete flop, or a mega-blockbuster.' Lucky it was the latter.
HAS SPOILERS Faramir was horribly done and Frodo and Sam going to Osilligoth? (sp? forget the exact name) wasnt ever in the book if I remember right Faramir lets Frodo go claiming he would not even pick up the ring had it been lying on the road. The ending was horrible. The fact that Shelob wasnt in this film disappointed me. The TTT book ended wonderfully wondering what will happen to Frodo and what will the Ring do to Sam and I missed that with the movie. PJ could have even not shown the part where Sam takes Sting and the Ring and made it even more suspensful by having the audience think that Frodo still has the ring when he is taken by the orcs. Also I wished they showed Gandalf and the rest of the Fellowship going to Isengard after the Ents demolished it. The confrontation between Saruman and Gandalf was a great moment in the book imo. It showed that Gandalf the White was now in fact more powerful than Saruman. Also the fact that Grima Wormtongue hurled the palantir at the hobbits was another important fact that was omitted in the movie that I would have put in. If PJ would stop trying to emphasize the romance between Aragorn and Arwen it might have been possible to include these moments. The good stuff was the action scenes they were all wonderfully done and Smeagol/Gollum was also done beautifully showing the struggle this creature was going through. One thing that I did like that PJ put in was the scene where Gandalf released Theoden from Sarumon's control. I liked that scene in the movie more than in the book. I guess that was to make up/show that Gandalf was now a bit more powerful than Saruman But overall it was a decent movie that didnt do justice to the book. I am anxious to see ROTK but I am also afraid that after butchering this film PJ will do the same to that film. There is so much stuff left out in TTT that will probably be crammed into ROTK and then stuff will be just left out of ROTK completly. My guess will be that PJ will just end the movie when Aragon and Arwen get married and not even go into what has happened in the shire. I am just glad that Tolkien isn't around to see this. Well that is my two cents actually one last thing, why isnt Aragorn's sword, Anduril, giving a bit more importance in the film as it is in the book? Just a bugging thought of mine
the reason Jackson didn't put those scenes in this movie was becasue he didn't have enough time, and ROTK is a much shorter book, so he had time to spare in that movie. you are wright. The part of the shire isn't in ROTK. i find that a pitty too. i'm also with you on this. But in the extended versions it will be a bigger part. i watched the extended version of FOTR. and it was alot more like the books. the thing is, atleast IMHO. it is wiser not to try to compaire the books and the movie too much. You can not make a movie exactly like a book. it is not possible. i read the books and loved it. I love the movie also. But you can not expect exact same movie as the books where. Because everybody read the books a different way. In a book we see everything in our imagination. in a movie we see somebody elses imaginatoin. So to really apritiate the movie you must not compare it to much with the book.
Before all you purists get more upset about the movie TTT not being identical to the book TTT, think about this: Tolkien wrote it as ONE BOOK. Jackson filmed it as ONE MOVIE. Unlike Tolkien, Jackson was given time parameters of 179 minutes per flick for the first two movies. Stupid studios. I agree that the ending of TTT with Sam carrying the Ring and with Pippin and Gandalf fleeing to Gondor after Pippin sees Sauron in the palatir is superior...but what would Jackson do? Do you really think the Arwen scenes took as much time as both Shelob's Lair and the return to Isengard would take? His hands were tied. We Tolkien fans are forced to wait 8 months for the extended versions. I'm ok with that. And another 4 months for those scenes. Hey it beats waiting 3 years for another souless Star Wars. These scenes will be in the next movie, which will be over 3.5 hours, and who knows....maybe they will flow really well. So far I am very happy with the adaption (Faramir scene isnt THAT horrible) but I choose to wait until I see ROTK to give final judgement. As far as the rebuilding of the Shire....well, as I kid I sorta thought that was boring...although in my last few readings I enjoyed it. Thats sort of an epilogue. The QUEST is the destruction of the One Ring. Too bad they couldnt do it but I'm cool with that. I just hope Shelob looks cool. Giant spiders can look pretty hokey.
SPOILERS!!! I don't think the scouring of the shire would have fitted into the movies that well. I mean, think about it. We've just seen a massive battle of over 100,000 Orcs, Ringwraiths and Trolls. The Ring is destroyed. And then we get back to The Shire, and there is another battle. IMHO, it wouldn't be a good point to end the film on.
Didn't he make Solaris? I thought that was one of the worst movies I had ever seen. I also hated Traffic. Maybe Irvin Kirshner, but I am okay with how Jackson did it, considering the constraints placed on him.
but the scouring of the Shire at the end of ROTK are there to show what Saruman had been up to since they ran him out of Isenguard. It also shows how the hobbits start to take up leadership positions by standing up to the Southlanders that have taken over their homeland. I always felt that it was a nice way to end the story...I wonder tho.. Will they end the trilogy with Bilbo and the Elves leaving Middle-Earth like in the book? It seemd like the type of scene that would get left out (kinda like Tom Bombadil)
