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Yahoo/Draftexpress Mock Draft 2.0

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 15, 2012.

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  1. Carl Herrera

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    14. Houston
    Kendall Marshall PG
    20 years old; 6'4"; 180 lbs.. North Carolina, Sophomore
    With starting point guard Kyle Lowry demanding to be traded if free-agent backup Goran Dragic returns, the Rockets' point guard situation looks tenuous at best. General Manager Daryl Morey knows how difficult it is to acquire playmakers of Kendall Marshall's stature in free agency or via trades, which gives him very good value at this stage in the draft.

    16. Houston (via New York)
    Tyler Zeller C
    22 years old; 7'0"; 250 lbs., North Carolina, Senior
    This pick is widely assumed to be in play, as the Rockets have a number of young prospects on their roster and may not be looking to bring two more rookies into the fold. Regardless of whether its them making the pick, Tyler Zeller is a safe bet to come off the board at this stage, as he's simply too big, talented and productive not to have an impact on someone's rotation.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    If the draft order was going to play out this way, I would LOVE for the Rockets to try to package the #14 pick (with Kendall Marshall on the board) plus other assets (Budinger, 2014 second rounder and $2-3 million cash?) to move up to #10 to get Damian Lillard, selling New Orleans on the fact that they'd still get one of the top two PG prospects while still getting other assets (and you KNOW they want the cash). Then take Tyler Zeller at #16.

    If something like that could play out, I would be ecstatic.
     
  4. HMMMHMM

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    Not sure the Hornets would move the #10 pick if Lillard is there, as he'd fit quite well with their core, but I totally agree. I would much rather have Lillard than Marshall.

    I, too think that Bud is expendable, but I'd try to keep the cash to buy a 2nd rounder or two. Obviously it wouldn't be a deal breaker, but taking flyers on second rounders is just such low-risk, high-reward it's too enticing too pass up, no matter how many players you've got on your roster already.
     
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    I dont know if this works but if it does it looks good.

    # 14 Terrence Ross SG/SF
    21 years old; 6'7"; 197 lbs., Washington, Sophomore

    #16 Tyler Zeller C
    22 years old; 7'0"; 250 lbs., North Carolina, Senior

    Do a 3 way trade with Min & orl

    Hou gets: Howard & Turk & Min - First rounder (Arnett Moultrie)
    Hou Out: lowry, Scola, Martin, Bud, Ppat, Morris.

    Min gets: Marin, Morris
    Min Out: Beasley + Fillers + 1st rounder

    Orl Gets: Lowry, Scola, Bud, Beasly, Ppat, Zeller
    Orl Out: Howard & Turk

    Line up:

    Dragic / Filler
    Lee / Ross
    Turk / Parson /
    D. Moties / Arnett Moultrie
    Howard / Camby

    You guys think it works????
     
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    I'd rather trade Lowry for the #6/#8 pick plus second rounders, and then trade down to pick Lillard/Henson while getting other assets.
     
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    bgp - Nothing much is going down in Orlando until the Magic hire themselves a GM. I also read (don't remember where) that Thorpe and Van Gundy were fired partially for insisting that Howard be moved this summer.
     
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    Jtr- Thanks. Man this really stinks.... It would be nice to get howard and then sign Williams. (dont know how cap would work out)
     
  9. Horry33

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    I think Orland would want a little more.

    Man I wish we had a back to back picks. Philly who could possibly use their pick on any position could screw up our draft by taking the guy we want at pick 16.
     
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    For example, I'd be happy with Marshall at 14 if we were going to get Perry Jones at 16 but hard to guess what sixers will do. In this mock they take Jones at 15.
     
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    Might as well go after Gortat with Lowry, Bud, and Hou pick instead of Zeller especially since we wanting to keep trying to win. Then draft Ross with 16.
     
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    I don't car how, but please get one of these guys.

    Drummond
    Perry Jones
    Meyers
    Henson

    Someone with height, length, athleticism, and a high ceiling.
     
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    If draft day ends with a Marshall and Zeller.. I would be very sad.
     
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    More I think about it if this scenario plays out then I would like to take Perry Jones at 14 and then at 16 take Marshall or Zeller...whoever philly doesn't take.
     
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    How can you have any certainty Lillard will be better than Marshall?

    I can't get excited or disappointed about stuff that's impossible to project (especially without the resources/experiences of a pro scouting dept).
     
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    Didn't the NBA change the amount of money that can change hands in a trade? I thought I read that the $3 million limit became $1 million.
     
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    The new CBA changes the maximum allowable cash in trades from $3M per trade to $3M in the AGGREGATE across all trades during a season. This applies both to total cash spent and (for some reason) total cash received.

    For instance, the New York Knicks threw $3M cash into the Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade deal with Dallas and Washington. Because they already used the full $3M cash allotment, the Knicks CANNOT buy a draft pick on draft day.

    If the Rockets were to throw $2M cash into a draft day deal, they would still have $1M remaining they would be allowed to use in other draft day deals or in post-draft trades through June 30.

    Hope that explains things.
     
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    When does the year run? July 15th (or whenever business restarts) or ? Is there $ left from last year? How does this actually work?
     
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    Thanks for the explanation. I knew things were changed but didn't know the final decision. The aggregate change will limit what Morey can/will offer on draft night.
     
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    July 1 through June 30. However, trades cannot occur during the July Moratium, which ends July 11.

    Cash allotments not used in one season do NOT carry over to future seasons.

    Maybe not. Since the Rockets haven't used any cash in trades so far this year, they'll have a full $3M to use in trades. I never foresaw them spending more than that (like in 2009), given that they had two first round picks.

    I expect the Rockets (well, Les Alexander, really) to spend some cash on draft day, either as a sweetener to a larger deal, to buy a pick (hopefully after/as part of packaging other picks) or to dump Dalembert's $1.5M partial guarantee on a team like Sacramento or Toronto (assuming that Sammy's trade value is zero, that is).
     

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