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Trade Killed Chemistry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Dec 28, 2002.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Not saying KT would help [though I think he would]
    the big issue is after the trade
    we are back to Preseason form

    working in a New guy - J Posey
    Guys with new minutes and roles - MoTay and Griff
    Guys having to ReEarn minutes - Hawkins

    I think out chemistry is off
    before they trade we had a tight 8~9 man rotation
    the trade upset the balance
    we need only be patient . . .we will get that winning feeling back


    Rocket River
     
  2. DallasThomas

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    Good point. I was kinda pissed at the way things were going after the trade, but I was blaming it on personnel. That's a much more optimistic way of looking at it and probably the one that's closest to being correct. Thanks.
     
  3. youAndMe

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    What about the players that can never be salvaged!? Trade is one of the coach's options to bring positive change to the team. Well, in this case with the Rox, the coach should be the one the team needs to get rid of.
     
  4. LAfadeaway33

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    It's not the chemistry that's off. It's the fact that we're forced to run a motion offense or fast break to score points where as we used to have a forward to iso when we found ourselves unable or perhaps unwilling to run an offense. That is why even if we were losing a better player for a worse player (which I do not think is the case) it would hurt our team now, but in a few weeks or even months (however long it takes to get the team willing to run an offense) we will be much better and will have a means by which to score even when steve or cat's shot aren't on. KT's style of play does not fit a western confrence team that must score nearly each and every time down to hang with the other best teams in the conference. However, he will find himself along with his team much more successful in the depleted Eastern Conference.
     
  5. Yetti

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    The problem will only be solved when the Coach takes command and defines his Team, and the offence and defence of each member of that Team. The Leader for this season must be Francis,but the Team should understand that the Team is in the process of change and that once Yao Ming has adapted to the NBA (next season) the ball will go through him. The Coach must make a strong stand against decenters and wimps, non team players should only play a small role until traded.
     
  6. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    You're going to figure out a way to work this Fire Rudy angle into every single thread, aren't you?
     
  7. youAndMe

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    Someone has to take the blame. I hope someone could name few excellencies in Rudy's coaching besides the 2 championships.
     
  8. Puedlfor

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    two championships aren't enough?

    Do you know how many FRANCHISES in their entire history have two or more championships?

    And you think that a COACH with two isn't enough. . . .
     
  9. rocketfat

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    yeah....i think we were better with kenny, but, you've gotta let it go, because, he was outta here after the season anyway. posey definitely looks like he can contribute (maybe not in the same capacity as kenny), so, it's good that we at least got something out of him.

    kenny is a very underrated player, and, i think he's going to flourish with whoever he signs with at the end of the season. i think the lakers would be a perfect fit for him.
     
  10. Raven

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    4 words:

    MORE PASSING LESS SHOOTING

    Raven
     
  11. BigM

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    that doens't really mean anything. so just pass the ball around for 24 seconds and play defense? i honestly don't think the problem is so much shot selection or iso's during the past 3 games just really, really bad shooting. there were plenty of good passes and open looks just completely blown. can't do much about that other than hope the perimeter guys snap out of it. defensively, however is were most of the losses are to be blamed.
     
  12. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    How is passing the ball going to help defense. Our last three opponents shot 50% against us. We had a great shooting night against Utah but we still lost. How is passing the ball around a few more times going to help us..
     
  13. glynch

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    Rocketriver, goog post about the chemistry and everyone's roles changing now that we don't have KT. It makes me feel more comfortable about the near future.

    Now the guy who posted about KT being underated and a perfect fit for the Lakers just got me worried again.
     
  14. Timing

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    I think he meant more passing less dribbling. We've got to shoot at some point. ;)
     
  15. MManal

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    Something to consider in the fire Rudy discussions. Only one coach has survived four straight lottery seasons and that is Wes Unseld with the Bullets (now Wizards).
     
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    Something else to consider is that no coach who has proved himself by winning two championships has had the stones and the loyalty to attempt to rebuild at that team. More typical is shopping for another contender once the stars who won the championships have left. Phil Jackson and Pat Riley are the main guys I can think of now.
     
  17. SLA

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    glynch...you are right.

    Rudy Tomjanovich has stayed. All the players from the Championship team are gone. Our team died and sucked. And he stayed and now is rebuilding. We are still rebuilding.
     
  18. MManal

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    glynch, that has nothing to do with it. All coaches are not suited to coach young teams as they arent "teachers". I realize there is a lot of emotional ties to Rudy T b/c of the championships, but you have to be a tad bit pragmatic here. Francis and Mobley are making the same mistakes they were three years ago, and their basketball IQ has not increased one iota. It is just amazing to me that Francis is averaging 4 TO per game still and only 6 APG to offset that. That is purely pathetic.

    I have been with this team through thick and thin since before Rudy even was the head coach. He has not earned a lifetime pass imo and should not be coaching this team if they finish in the lottery for the fourth straight season. The two championships were the greatest basketball experience Ive been involved with (I was fortunate enough to attend every home game in the finals those two yrs). However, not every coach is cut out to be a "teacher" of young players. If the Rockets end up in the lottery for the fourth straight year, Rudy should be fired or moved into the front office.
     
  19. xiki

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    A few days ago KT was a cancer? Now he is the missing piece? Guys, KT was a pretty fair ballplayer. He wasn't 'all that', bad or good.

    The problem is simple -- Rudy doesn't take my calls...
     
  20. SLA

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    heh. We should all e-mail him.
     

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