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Parsons or Leonard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by onreego, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. meh

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    Are you sure you posted the right quote? Because I'm not sure which part of my posts you're responding to.
     
  2. Easy

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    You misunderstood what he's trying to say.
     
  3. crash5179

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    No Parsons did not spend a year overseas. He Played in only 3 games for Cholet Basket while the NBA was locked out. He returned to the Rockets as soon as the lockout was over.
     
  4. amaru

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    Your right.....I'd rather have Marcus Morris because he's the second coming of Carmelo Anthony but with defense :)
     
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    second coming of Terrence Williams without the passing and the tweets
     
  6. Dreamin

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    They are pretty much on par for now. We could have played Leonard at the 2 next to Parsons at 3.

    I think Parsons would have looked way better had he played under Pops and Leonard wouldnt have looked as flash playing under McFail.
     
  7. meh

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    His comparison made no sense no matter how you look at it. Even if we assume KMart and Lowry are like Manu and Parker, neither of them played in the 2nd half of the season when Parsons started to play at his best.
     
  8. jtr

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    Well said. The Rockets front office is one of the better ones in the NBA. Not as good as the Spurs though LOL. They saw something in Morris that caused them to pass on Leonard. I do not believe that they viewed him as a player who would step in the first year and really contribute. Lucking out with Parsons helped immensely. No off season and a playoff push certainly limited Morris's PT which is understandable. Hopefully next season and beyond he will develop nicely. He was not bad last season when he played. I would describe it as incomplete. Lots of holes in his game, but when transitioning to a new position what else would you expect? Hopefully he will have a bright future and may be an indicator as to our FO player evaluation acumen.

    I admit I was disappointed when the Rockets chose Morris. And I was completely baffled by the Parsons pick. I personally expected Parsons not to make the team. It sorta turned out differently. So why pick someone at SF with the 14th and come right back in the second round with another SF? Mabye the FO knows way way more than I do. Yes it could be true (sarcasm in a huge way). Parsons for now and in another year Morris? We can hope.

    I found the stats comparing Parsons and Leonard interesting. I had not looked them up, but the comparisons in every way are favorable. Parsons was a great pick. Obviously.

    Any way thanks for starting a provocative and interesting thread.
     
  9. jtr

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    In case anyone misconstrued what I meant by a sarcasm, I would be lucky to hold a candle to a 5 week intern in Morey's front office.
     
  10. meh

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    Morris and Motiejunas were obviously high-ceiling picks. And even today I still believe both have higher ceiling than Parsons. When you get to the 2nd round, all the players with star potential are gone, so Morey went for the guy he knew could be a good rotation player.
     
  11. jboger

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    Swag

    We need to trade Martin and Lowry for nickolas batum and Raymond Felton! We can play batum at sg and bring Felton off the bench with lee and hopefully we draft a sf and trade scola for a draft pick/ young prospect.. Then let the bear go and resign dragic and camby:)
     
  12. roslolian

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    This is not really realistic because Parsons outplayed someone with better potential than him and Leonard: Marcus Morris. So if he could outplay Morris then there's no doubt in my mind he could have also outplayed Leonard. More than likely, what would have happened was that C-bud would have gotten 0 PT, as he would have been relegated to the pine while the swingman rotation would have consisted of Parsons, Kawhi and Lee.

    While at the end of the day I think the Rox made the mistake of choosing potential over production in Morris over Kawhi, I also think the Spurs have a lot to do with his development. I have more faith in the Spurs coaching staff than I do our own, and I think if they had gotten Morris he'd probably be their next star or something.
     
  13. apollo33

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    Parsons because he's more handsome
     
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    To me, the question is would the Rox have been able to put KL on the opposing team's best player, as was often done with Parsons, and have gotten better overall production? I seriously doubt it, IMHO.

    I think that CP is already an excellent defender with lots of room to grow on offense, which I believe he will. I'll reserve judgement on Morris until after this next season.
     
  15. apollo33

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    I like how people always give Morey shet for picking "non-high ceiling/potential" guys like Patpat and Budinger.

    But when he does draft for potential like Dorsey, Morris, they don't even get pt.
     
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    Budinger and PPAt have plenty of upside
     
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    oh please. this site is full of homers.

    a rondo/brooks comparison thread?
    lowry is better than deron post?


    i could go on. parsons is a solid player no doubt, but saying he has all-star potential and saying he will average 20 ppg is far fetched.
     
  18. Ming The King

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    Leonard is 3 years younger than Parsons
     
  19. Corrosion

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    Maybe 20ppg is a bit high , but is there any reason to doubt that with an improved shot , Parsons could give you 15-16ppg along with 6rpg and 3 apg?


    For those who'd like to plug Leonard in to the SG spot next to Parsons , defensively they would be a great combination , but where do the points come from?

    Does Leonard really have the handles to play at the SG spot ?? I dont think so. I dont think he will ever be a big scoring option , his shooting isnt good enough and his hands being so large , I dont see that getting a whole lot better - He's got hands like many centers .... look at their FT and outside shooting for an example.

    Leonards a SF .... as is Parsons.

    That combination may work if you have a dominant C or PF who the offense runs thru and demands double teams .... but this team lacks that type of player.
     
  20. MorningZippo

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    Parsons was one of the best iso defenders in the entire NBA last season. Leonard was far inferior defensively according to the stats.

    Heck, if you aren't a big fan of stats, just use your eyeballs. Pop put Steven Jackson on Durant in game 4 of the SA-OKC series because Leonard wasn't getting it done.

    Leonard is a better shooter right now, but it's well documented that shooting is one of the easiest things to improve on. Another reason for Leonards higher percentages is because he created a smaller amount of his shots on his own, and I would bet that a higher % of his shots were off assist than persons, which would increase his shot %, furthermore, If parsons is looking to pass, his ppg would be less because he's giving it up for assist.

    I don't see Leonard ever becoming a good passer or improving his handle significantly. Of course I could be wrong, but I think Parsons has a significantly better chance of improving his game.
     

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