Gandalf didn't become immortal. He was always an immortal Maiar. His body can still be damaged. "Somebody" didnt send him back, Manwe did.
Well, that certainly wasn't explained in the movie...was it explained in the TTT book? Because if it was, I don't remember it.
It was kind of explained in the book. When Gandalf returns to Aragorn and co. he tells Gimli that his axe would do him no harm. I don't remember the exact quite. Nomar, I always thought that because he switched bodies, his new body could not be harmed. That was just my interpretation of the book though.
No, I mean was it explained that a guy (girl?) named Manwe sent him back. I just don't seem to remember any explanation of any higher power in the books, and I was wondering if I missed it or if perhaps it is in one of the other books.
It's in Silmarillion. All of you who like Tolkien need to read Silmarillion. Lord of the Rings is about men, and Silmarillion is about Elves. Its much cooler.
Yes, but LOTR has a great story and character development. Silmarillion is well......meh. It's a history - and not really a well-written one.
I just saw it earlier today and am looking forward to seeing number 3 asap. Does anyone know of a bootleg?
Bootleg of TTT? Should be all over the Internet by now. The final cut of ROTK hasn't even been made yet. TTT wasn't completely finished before October, which is probably when ROTK will be completed (in 2003 of course).
...er, just kidding bout what I said, I'll probably see it tomarrow! (Friday...actually today) The only thing is 3 hours?!? I missed the last 5 to 10 minutes of the first one due to an emergency,...Do yall think I should rent it and finish the complete viewing? Or should I just go ahead and catch the afternoon show, like I think I will...
Ian McKellen should have got that academy award last year! which of the actors do you think deserves it most this year! ( from the two towers off course) I would say Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn most surdenly deserves one. He was so hardcore. He was also the one who got all the closeups and stuff so Jackson obviously agrees.
Ugh. It's growing on me how bad this movie really is. There was little to none real dialogue. Very bad CGI work with the Ents, and a halo effect. The olympic torch Uruk-Hai. Legolas can kill everybody else with 1 shot, but can't bring down this guy with 2 shots. CLICHE. The whole thing is one big 3 hour cliche. The scenes with Rohan? "I want you to take your sister, and go to Edoras." "I dont want to go mommy..." *tears*. Well, I was probably moved the first 200 times ive seen that scene in other movies. Where were the Dunedain? The rangers of the north, Aragorn's people. Elrond's sons... you get the point. It dawned on me today. They were replaced at Helm's Deep. By who you ask? By the elves. And of course, the huge cliche death of Haldir. Who didn't see that coming a mile away. (Cut to slow motion) (Aragorn screams "haldir!!! Nooooo!!!") Big. Fat. . Don't get me started on the "exorcism" scene. What a crock. Oh the dialogue. Legolas: "A red sun rises. Blood has been spilt today" or something. cut to more running sequences. I remember turning to my friend and saying, "What the **** just happened there?" Just as the battle scenes were building at the end, Jackson would CUT to boring ent clips? WTF? He should have cut to a picture of a schlong and it would have had the same effect on the film's momentum. How many times did we see the SAME shot of the Urukhai army marching over a hill. At least 4 I counted. Basically, Jackson traded in a chance for making a movie that would revolutionalize all movies to come, and to create something breathtaking that would have people in the theaters just dumbfounded by what they were seeing... for a cheap 3 hour mix of dull scenes, with lots of comic relief, and plenty of unrealistic action and Hollywood cliche. What I expect from Return of the King: Probably Jackson will cut out Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth from the movie. Reason? He is cool, and a badass. Same thing with the rangers. Everything will be rushed, because he has to cram in so much stuff. Loads of more cheesiness. Is Narsil/Anduril going to be completely dropped? What the hell? Whatever. Peter Jackson, thanks for blowing it. I'm done.
Ok Nomar you didn't like it we got it so you don't have to keep defending your opinion. Mention a movie you think is better and I bet you if we go through every little detail in every little scene then we will be able to come up with alternatives that would be better but what would be the point! Why do you complain so much over so little! Yes we see the orcs marching a few times, but what the h*** does that have to do with anything. In a movie such as this I expect there to be lines that is spoken differently than in a ordinary everyday movie. This is an epic tale not trip to the K-mart. They are facing death all the time while trying to find the courage to save middle earth. Don't you expect them to get a little emotional. Well I do and that is why I don't find it cheesy but for once I find the way of speaking fitting to the story told. How can you call the CGI bad?? Never been done better
The Two Towers took me away from reality, no doubt about it. For nearly three hours I got a guided tour around Middle-Earth, and saw some of the greatest battle scenes ever! I know everyone won't like this movie, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I'm not going to flame Nomar (although I feel like it ). He has a right to say what he has, whether I or anyone else, likes it or not.
I'll agree wiith you here, but I didn't think it was THAT bad. Just not on par with the rest of the CGI in the movie. Hey! I liked that scene. Great makeup. I completely agree (well, except for the schlong part). This was exactly what I said in my review. The boring Ents brought the movie to a screeching halt. Those scenes should have come about much earlier in the movie so as to not disrupt the Helm's Deep action. That's my one knock on the editing in this film. Uh, I'd rather see the army march than watch yet another scene of Treebeard walking through the forest with Merry and Pippin. ... As for the Ents, I thought of a better description than my last one. They looked like a cross between Swamp Thing, Gumby, and twizzlers. Did anyone notice, during the "Orcs debate eating the hobbits" scene, that one of the orcs (in favor of eating the hobbits) had what sounded like a Brooklyn accent? I immediately noticed that. Also, a few of the orcs sounded like the Beagle Boys from DuckTales.
It seems what you require in a movie would make TTT five hours long. Considering the confines they worked with, they did one hell of a job. Damn, I thought I was critical.
Why do I have this image of Nomar at the theater with a notepad, scribbling furiously and cursing in elvish?
Don't think this has been posted yet. From TheOneRing.net Shortlist Of Deleted Scenes From TTT Strider @ 2:36 pm EST Since filming went underway in 2000, The Two Towers has seen its storyline changed endless times due to necessity, time constraints, negative fan feedback and even by order of New Line. Hence, a huge chunk of material was either unused in the final theatrical cut of the movie or scrapped entirely. Here is just a list of some of the scenes that may or may not feature in The Two Towers Extended Edition next year. • Arwen running up to Elrond's veranda in Rivendell in fear, saying 'You have the gift of foresight...' • Gandalf the White telling Aragorn at night before Helm's Deep that Sauron 'fears what you may become' • Faramir discovering Boromir's horn cloven in two as it washes ashore • Arwen walking up towards the shards of Narsil while wearing a cloak similar to the one which she wears while leaving Rivendell • Further shots of Merry and Pippin being guarded by the Uruk-hai at night • Further shots of Eowyn standing outside the Golden Hall of Edoras • Elrond stating the alliance of Elves and Men 'is over' • Sam making greater use of the Elven rope given to him by Galadriel while travelling to Mordor with Frodo • Further shots of Arwen and Aragorn together in the past • The storyline of Arwen taking part in Helm's Deep, including shots of the Rivendell Elves arriving at Lothlorien and Arwen sleeping under falling leaves, was completely scrapped • Further shots of Eomer's travels in the hunt of orcs or after being banished from Rohan • Bilbo discussing the departure of Rivendell with Elrond and Arwen • Saruman claiming he will soon become 'more powerful than the Lord of the Rings himself' • Several scenes involving the two hobbits and Treebeard, including Merry and Pippin drinking the Ent Draught • A beautiful soliloquy from Faramir post-battle with the Haradrim, where he asks rethorically 'I wonder what his name was, where his home is, his family. Was he really evil at heart, or did the Dark Lord deceive him, as he has deceived so many others? What lies or threats led him on the long march from his home?' • More scuffling amongst the Uruk-hai and Orcs whilst in possession of the Hobbits • Faramir showing Frodo and Sam a way out of Osgiliath through the sewers • Saruman's speech that begins 'So Gandalf Greyhame thinks...' • Ents participating in the battle of Helm's Deep • Flashbacks to Boromir, Faramir and Denethor together • Further footage of Frodo's scuffle with Sam • The Uruk-hai invasion of the caves in Helm's Deep • Eomer pulling Theodred out of some mud post-battle • Aragorn releasing Theodred's horse Brego, the horse that would save him later, from it's stable • A flashback to Boromir's death in FotR • A council of Elves debating whether or not an alliance with Men is feasible • Legolas scolding the stupidity of the Elves not to assist the race of Men with their fight against Sauron • Eowyn about to slay an Orc in the caves - may appear in RotK • Gimli smoking a pipe while resting on a dead orc - may appear in RotK updated additions: • Further shots of Gollum travelling to Mordor with the hobbits, including him ordering not to stop on a certain road and extensions to the cooked rabbit scene • Flashback to Smeagol killing Deagol over the One Ring while fishing on the River Anduin - will appear in RotK • Merry and Pippin discussing what will happen to them when the Uruk-hai find out they don't bear the One Ring • Sam discussing the changes occuring to Frodo with Gollum while the Ringbearer is asleep • Gimli exploring the beautiful caves under Helm's Deep with Legolas • The Orcs of Mordor joining the band of Uruk-hai • Aragorn conversing with someone at night while lying down in a Rohan camp
