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Only drafting bigs (keeping a good sg in Kevin Martin)

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by it's our time, May 22, 2012.

  1. dje243

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    I think Lee will be back. I think they can trade a pick and player or two to move up and grab Sullinger and then get either lamb or rivers with their other pick. I know we're not fans of tweeners here, but Sullinger seems to be a big that we could get with reasonable star potential. He's got an NBA ready body and could even develop into our version of a taller chuck hayes but with better offensive upside. I would like to see a player like rivers or lamb develop behind C-Lee.
     
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    The idea of going with two bigs is intriguing however. I'm just not sure we can pass up some of the SG's that will be there at 14 or 16 considering how 2 heavy this draft is.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    Last time I checked, that was called "taking the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE". :p

    Of course, I believe in the tier ranking system. If you have a group of guys all ranked equally, you go with the player who fulfills a position of need. However, you NEVER pass up a guy in a higher tier to take a better positional fit in a lower tier.

    Go ask the 1984-85 Portland Trailblazers about passing up the BPA (Michael Jordan) for positional need (Sam Bowie, who every scout had ranked well below Olajuwon and Jordan, the clear-cut #1 and #2 talents in the 1984 NBA Draft).

    You can always make trades to even out your roster. And having more talented players can help you get more value in return in trades.

    I won't argue the merits of whether it's working out or not, since it's too early to tell on Patterson and (especially) Morris.

    Patterson was clearly the BPA in 2010. Despite his poor stretch of play at the end of this season, I think he's still a strong pick by the Rockets.

    As for the last part of your post, coachbadlee, I think "taking a chance" is EXACTLY what the Rockets did last year. The "safe" pick at #14 last year would have been Kawhi Leonard (who I personally wanted to take). But the Rockets TOOK A CHANCE on drafting Marcus Morris, with the belief that changing his position could make him a potential star player.

    It may not work, but the Rockets did exactly what so many people here wish they would do. They swung for the freakin' fences with Morris.
     
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    any trade where we trade quantity for quality would be best

    whether it be to move up in the draft or just making the roster more top heavy

    we are 2 deep in every position with good players and it would be hard for a rookie, even more so 2, to get playing time and therefore develop as a player
     
  5. jtr

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    You know that I am comfortable with your analysis Bima. I just don't want another PF on the roster. Unless we luck into Robinson of course. I do hope you understand my position.
     
  6. JLOBABYDADDY

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    I'd tell you this was a good find if he didn't make $12M a year and he gave me these numbers over the course of 75-80 games.
     
  7. BimaThug

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    I understand it. And it'll probably piss me off a little if the Rockets draft another PF. But it'll also most likely be the right decision . . . if the Rockets are taking the best player available on their board.

    This roster is simply not good enough to pass up better players, regardless of position.

    If we know one thing about Morey, it's that he can make more than his fair share of roster balancing minor moves.

    Just remind yourself, when the Rockets selected Aaron Brooks in 2007, he became the Rockets' FIFTH point guard on the roster. I think that worked out well as a very good pick for Houston.
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    Not if trades are made.
     
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    The reason why you pick the best player available, is because there is usually somebody else out there that covets the player that you also like. If you draft the best player available, even if it isn't a position of need, you in turn have an asset that can be moved to another team for a piece you actually need. If the Rockets don't feel that they can get a piece that will benefit them immediately, they may target a player that another team wants, and in turn make them pay a premium for that player. Preferably, it'd be a team that has a piece that the Rockets need or want.
     
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    Agreed with Bima. I'm sure, if Portland had chosen Jordan instead of Bowie, there would have been secondary moves to fill a need for a center, either through free agency or trades.

    Same thing with the Rockets if we happen to draft a PF who happens to be the BPA. I would be pissed off but hope that we can package it for a position of need.
     
  11. it's our time

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    I feel you bro...especially the 75-80 games part!!!!

    But I tell you what, if he is putting up those numbers on a consistent basis it wouldn't be but a few years until he was being offered $10-12 mil somewhere to play.
     
  12. RealContender

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    I wanted to sign Zach Randolph years ago and pair him up with Yao. Everyone called me crazy. I called and made the suggestion to Lance Zierlein when he was with 610 and he laughed at it.

    Well, look what Randolph is doing now.
     
  13. mike_lu

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    Jordan won with Bill Cartwright and Luc Longley ...
     
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    True. But think of the possibilities of having Jordan and Drexler teaming together, arguably the most dynamic players of their era, with Jim Paxson, Mychal Thompson, and Kiki Vandeweghe and Jerome Kersey at its core. Add another center and PF via free agency and Jordan would probably have won championships earlier in his career.

    Cream always rise. BPA is the way to go.
     

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