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Would you be happy or sad if the Rockets resemble the Pacers in a couple of years?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, May 14, 2012.

  1. ashishduh

    ashishduh Member

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    Their entire front court is better than ours. And having a great young C is pretty huge, it's the hardest position to fill and having a defensive big man is the most important part of being a contender.
     
  2. conquistador#11

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    i was basically labeled insane for believing the astros would be a fun team to follow this year and for pointing out in some thread back in 2010 that since kubiak got to houston the texans had been awesome at acquiring talent on draft day.

    Here is another opinion that might get that same reaction. unlike many, I love our roster of misfits. if Marcus camby was 27 and healthy, we would be 3rd or 4th.
    We're just missing a Center/ power forward that can play both on offense and defense. yeah, i know, players that can play great on both sides are called stars.
     
  3. coachbadlee

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    Not necessarily. Chandler Parsons is a perfect example.
     
  4. coachbadlee

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    Dragic is a better PG than Collison, imo. Parsons makes every player he guards work harder that they are used to. As far as center goes, just add a Deandre Jordan like center to the mix. Then add a wing who can score and play good defense and we got the Pacers.
    You are currently riding the Pacers jocks because they are in the playoffs.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    So what you're saying is that, aside from the fact that they have better players, we are just as good as the Pacers.
     
  6. GATER

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    As close as the current Rockets can get to the Pacers is that Bird and McHale were teammates in BOS.

    The Pacers were 13-5 against the WC (72% incluidng a win in HOU). The Rockets...23-25.

    Bottomline...I'll take that Indiana State guy over the MIT guy 24x7x365.
     
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  7. meh

    meh Member

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    Well, this should be a comparison between entire teams, not just the frontcourt. Our backcourt's a lot better than theirs. I'd even say our backcourt is even with theirs after trading away KMart and Lowry.

    Coachbadlee's about right that a solid center of Hibbert's caliber is basically the difference in terms of talent. Although to achieve their level of success in the west, we probably need more talent. Because I think the west, Pacers would have trouble beating out Lakers/Clippers/Grizzlies or even a potential DWill/Dirk Mavs in the west for the 3rd seed.
     
  8. meh

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    What is, this, random pointless stat day? I have an equally useless stat. The Rockets are 11-7(61%) against the East. Indy is 29-19(60%). I'm not going to conclude anything from that.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    YEP - one uses numbers the other looks at talent because he played the game and can recognize it, and more importantly how it will progress.

    DD
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Keeping in line with the thread, yes we can be as early as next season. We all had been saying that we still need a center and another wing. We get that, we got 'em.
     
  11. conquistador#11

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    And yet, undersized and hindered by scola's lack of D, we still play evenly with those lame teams of OKC, SA, LA, FlopGalorecity, and the Dallas Terrys.
     
  12. dobro1229

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    These teams are built nearly identical, except for having better size in the paint, and their key players are better two way players Scola/Martin vs. West/Grainger. Otherwise, I dont see what Larry Bird being a Hick from French Lick vs. MIT grad has any relevance to the way they built their teams. They have drafted well without a high lottery pick, upgraded certain positions, and developed their young players. That formula doesn't seem that different based on education levels.
     
  13. coachbadlee

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    What is random and pointless about it? The allegation was made that the team with the 5th best record in the entire NBA (Pacers) would not be a top 8 team in the West. It is then entirely appropriate to ask the question of how they fared against the West. The answer: pretty darn well, better in fact than they did against the East.

    You can argue that it lacks appropriate sample size, that they played unusually weak Western teams, or whatever, but at least try to make a rational argument rather than to stamp your foot and declare that it is so, because you believe it to be so.
     
  15. meh

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    You seem to think my argument is not rational, but his is rational? When both of us used the same exact logic?

    Okay then, I'll say that the Rockets would be almost as good as the Pacers if they were in the East, given that the Rockets defeat EC teams at an even higher rate than the Pacers. I don't personally believe this. But if you accept his argument that Pacers record against western teams mean that much, then I can only conclude this is how you feel about the Rockets if they played in the East.
     
  16. rezdawg

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    Exactly, having played the game means you can definitely recognize talent.

    Signed,
    Michael Jordan

    ;)
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    Not sure if this has been mentioned, but... You know which team this Pacers team reminds me of? The Houston Rockets from 3 years ago.

    The Rockets won 53 games that season, the Pacers were on a 52 win pace (42 wins in 66 game season). The one All Star on each team is their oversized center. Each team had big wing players (Artest, Battier, McGrady, Granger, George), good shooting PFs (Scola, West) and good depth off the bench. Each team also faced/is facing the "super team" of its conference in the 2nd round.

    The Rockets probably would have been better if McGrady had been healthy. But there are similarities.
     
  18. leebigez

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    I agree,but what I've said is the rockets need 3 near all star caliber players on their roster. Right now,if he plays like last yr,the only guy is dragic imo. If I had dragic,tyreke evans,and brooke lopez added to javele mcgee and chandler parsons, that would be what I'm in line with. Not sure if they could win a ring,depends on situations,but they could be a force. Of course getting tyreke,mcgee,and lopez will take some work,but I think it would be worth it.
     
  19. pacertom

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    Let us summarize your argument

    Team A is EXCELLENT vs. another conference
    Team A is very good vs. its own conference

    Team B is very good vs. another conference
    Team B blows reeking chunks of vomit vs. its own conference

    your conclusion:
    Team A = Team B

    got it!
     
  20. coachbadlee

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    Near allstars: Dragic, Lowry, Parsons and Lee.
     

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