Why Did We Even Trade for James Posey If We Are Never Going to Play Him?

never play him? It's been 2 friggin games and the dude is brand new to the team.

He'll get his minutes eventually, but he isn't going to come out and start busting heads right away, although that would rule. Remember the rox are a pretty deep team.

6rs aren't very deep at all, and KT is > Posey imo.

 

Posey should be starting he is better than Rice and is only getting better if Rudy doesnt play him a lot next game someone in the organization should challenge him

 

The only reason why kenny thomas is playing for the sixers is because the sixers don't have a deep team and despertaly need him to fill some holes. While on the other hand the rockets have one of the deepest teams in the nba. Why not let posey sit a few games to learn the offence and defence. Com'on guys it isn't going to kill the rockets that posey sitting out a few games to learn a new system. I'm sure after a few more practices that rudy will use posey a lot more. Rudy is the kind of coach that loves team chemistry.

 

Posey should NOT be starting over Rice. The Rockets' biggest problem this season has been that they have gotten off to slow starts offensively. Glen Rice is the PERFECT complementary player to Yao Ming. He can hit the open three when teams double down on Yao. As you may have noticed, Rice's offensive improvement coincided with Yao's emergence. Posey should still come off the bench for Rice and/or Mobley to provide defensive intensity and athleticism on the fast break; but he shouldn't start ahead of Rice.

 

Posey should ABSOLUTELY be starting over Rice, and he will be before too long, as soon as Rice comes down with his next injury, which should come in the next 2 or 3 weeks. Nachbar should be starting over Rice. I would rather have f***ing Kelvin Cato starting at the 3 over Rice.

If you have anything good to say about Rice, there is no way you have watched many games this year, and you either just read the statlines, or don't know jack about basketball. I know I have beaten this topic to the ground on this board, but Rice sucks. Yes BinaThug, Rice's game is one which should be complimentary to Ming kicking the ball out of the post, similar to Maxwell and others to Dream, but, the difference is, Rice sucks at it. I could say that my "game" is shooting 3's when the ball is kicked out to me from a double-teamed postman, but, it wouldn't matter if I suck at doing so, much like Rice does.

There is no pattern to Rice's offensive improvement....his hot streaks have been few and far between. Not to mention the fact that he is an ablolute detriment on defense. He is worthless. He is too slow to play a man tightly, and, even when playing them 4 feet off the ball, players can still blow by him at will. What good is his 10 points in 35 minutes, if the players he is defending are putting up 40? We are playing 4 on 5 on defense when Rice is in the game.

Rudy is absolutely lost with his minutes dispersion, and it is holding us back and costing us games. Rice sucks, but I blame Rudy....he's the one playing him. Rudy has gone overboard with playing players out of loyalty.

 

Cap space? Are you serious?? Posey makes 1.7 million and KT makes 1.6 million. Add to that the fact that both are free agents after this season. Damn, Posey was taken just a couple of spots ahead of KT in the draft.... this move had NOTHING to do with salary or cap space. KT was moved because we had plenty of 4's and KT is the least talented (Before all the KT fans jump me for that comment, I said "least talented" not "worst").

I watched the entire game tonight and all I have to say is I saw WAY too much TMO and only 2 minutes of Posey.

IMHO, we should just cut (or IR) TMo as soon as we can put Nachbar on the active roster. I think they are equally inept right now, but Nachbar has the better future.

 

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what we need. Let's dump the coach and start from scratch, blowing off an entire season in the process. Hey, maybe Bill Fitch is still available!

 

Nachbar <b>is</b> on the active roster . . .

 

Rudy T is very very very very conservative in the sense that it takes a really big deal for him to change his lineup and rotation and style of ball and so on. Manny , being a long time Rocks fan, you should know this by know. Think about it...did you really believe that Rudy would have played a new player here right away? No way. Other than getting a star like Shaq, KG, Kobe, Duncan, Rudy would not play guys right away. Hell, I even have my suspicions if we ever got a new young star.

 

Comparing Ming to Posey is stupid, Yao missed many games and took much longer then 2 damn games.......
I am not sure if Drexler started right away but Rudy was coaching at that stage, so I don't understand your point, not to mention Clyde was a proven star player and was a much prefered option at that stage. Posey is a role player and there is no sence of urgencey to have him forced to fit into the system right away.
How can you judge a trade after 2 freaking games?
What's the point in playing a guy that wouldn't know what the hell is going on? So how is that getting a new player used to playing with their new team?
Rudy T sacked? What the hell is sacked? What country you from?

 

Kim,

SO THIS CONSERVATIVE APPROACH EXCUSES NOT GIVING YOUR NEW 14/6 MAN EVEN A WHIFF OF PT IN THE FIRST TWO GAMES? Gimme a break. What a message to send to a new guy!!

Posey is a young veteran who plays tough D and doesn't demand the rock. Seems like we could use someone exactly like that....esp. when Big Dog etc. torching us at will.

Rudy has yet to show me that he can make the whole > sum of the parts. His rotations and FAILURE TO DEMAND THAT HIS PLAYERS SHARE THE BALL are madenning

D R

 

My point exactly, I believe Rudy is a great coach who does lack in a few areas, and this being the worst. I can't stand how he always feels he must bring players along slowly, like he did Eddie last year (thank god for injuries). I know this isn't the same case, but it seems to lead to the same thing, he's not ballsy enough to take minutes from other players and give them to some kid who hasn't proven himself with this team yet. How can they prove themselves from the bench?!? I like Rudy a lot, but this one thing always makes me question him, I don't think he is brave enough to take on his players. If Steve or Cat make a mistake he probably says something, but they know they don't have to listen because he's Rudy and they know they'll get their minutes. If Rudy was Pat Riley I hate to imagine how flawless this team would be.

Pugs

 

Posey has to get accustomed to the system Rudy runs.

 

I have to agree with Kim and CriscoKidd.

If Larry Brown's style/philosophy is to throw a new player right into the fire without having a practice, then good for him. Larry Brown isnt the coach of this team though and just because he does it this way, doesnt mean thats they way it should be done. The Sixers have very little depth and needed KT to play.

Despite what many here think, its not likely that Posey is going to be a starter, at least, not for a while. Rudy will indeed bring him along slowly and will start giving him minutes when he feels comfortable doing so.

Rudy will not give him minutes at the expensive of chemistry and cohesiveness on the court.

Be patient! Posey is a role player, not the savior.

 

It is a joke that TMo gets more than 1.69 mpg of playing time in this league. Which of the other 28 coaches in the league would play TMO significant minutes? Which of the 28 would even keep him on their active roster??

 

Larry Brown is a smarter, more efficient, more experienced coach who has worked at all levels. Rudy is not Larry Brown. He's a guy that came up through the system, got a break, and latched on like a beartrap on a few simple things his team could do well. I don't expect Rudy to ever show the game smarts or experience-derived authority of Larry Brown. He's ok. He's better than Alvin Gentry. But there are certainly times when he makes my head explode, with that deer-in-the headlights look, when the game isn't what he expected.

 

Not sure he's better than Gentry now.


Wouldn't you say that Philly's system is harder to pick up than Houston's?

I haven't really heard of a legit reason why Thomas is playing and Posey isn't.

I hope Rudy didn't confuse Posey with another Rocket. Pposey was a 15/6 guy in Denver; now he's T-mo's back-up.

 

I said it before and I'll say it again. I don't expect Posey to be a major contributor on this team because it is likely he'll leave at the end of the season. If he does so, why compromise team chemistry for a guy who might jet and the end of the season?

Now, if Posey demonstrates who wants to resign here for a reasonable price, then it makes sense to get him more minutes.

The Posey trade was designed to get more minutes for EG and MoT. It is already successful in that respect. Posey gets us some depth and injury insurance but he is a role player, at best, for this team.