Seriously, Rockets can consider to get Bateer as a PF

Bateer would be a restricted free-agent next year. The Spurs could match any offer we throw at Bateer.

 

Why would you rather have a 3 point shooting, soft, backup center than one who can play D, block shots and rebound?

 

Big dog is a small forward so it is not problem of power forward. You have to remember, they are called star for a reason...... I am pretty sure Bateer will not guard them well. The key to defense is a quick lateral movement. Bateer doesn't have it.

 

Bateer is NOT a good player

Footwork poor
Shooting poor
Range poor
Skill poor

Sadly, I find Bateer to be HIGHLY limited in his abilities, let alone, potential. He has ONLY ONE MOVE. A spinmove on the baseline that 9 out of 10 times fails to get him an open look b/c people in the NBA jump really high. Bateer has NO range on his shot. He has limited post up moves. And lastly, he is just a "bulldozer" looking to rack up the offensive fouls. The closest comparison to Bateer that I can think of is "Tractor" Trailor who now plays for the Hornets. While Bateers "bull em over" style might have a place on the collegiate level, he's not, what I would call, skilled NBA material. So what if he's cheap? Much like Wang, Bateer is cheap for a reason. They both suck.

In a few years, we'll have all but forgotten of Bateer and Wang in favor of fresh and better talent from the Far East.



theSAGE

 

This thread is funny. Some Chinese fans trying to convince rocket fans that the rockets should bring in Bateer and/or Wang. I assume this way they only have to track one team to follow their favorite players.

 

Oh yeah, even YAO'S GIRLFRIEND PLAYS BETTER BBALL than either WANG OR BATEER!

There's no room for substandard players on our bench. Picking up any of these two clowns would be a MAJOR downgrade from who we already have. Besides which, I sure Yao would get sick of playing with them over and again.



theSAGE

 

The format was messed up in the above post.

Saying Bateer sucks is like saying Cato stinks. Reality check, Bateer commended double teaming in his rookie season playing only 27 games. Cato never commended any double teaming. Besides, Bateer has range beyond the 3 point line. He shot 3s at 33% last season, and 78% from the charity stripe. He has decent footwork and soft touch. He has his way with some weak frontcourts in the L. The only drawback in his game is his speed on defense, which causes foul troubles, but that's not going to prevent him from a solid game if he learns to let it go at times.

Bateer is cheap because he's basically a rookie. He played only 27 games last season and one or two this season.

If only you guys stop saying that some fans want Bateer because he's Chinese, then this thread won't turn out to be so long winded and boring.

 

I heard Yao studied Hakeem and Arvidas Sabonis.

 

I agree that it doesn't behoove this thread to turn all nationalistic... but quite frankly, I don't care what nationality Bateer is. I've seen him play, on multiple occasions, and he's downright awful.

33% from 3 point land does not cut it. Heck, I can shoot 33% from 3-pt land on an average day. But more imptly, relative to other NBA guards and specialists, a 33% FG% for 3s is NOT gonna earn you a license to shoot from three point land. Ironically, the same goes with Wang Zhi Zhi too. He thinks he's a good 3 pt shooter, but relative to the other hotter hands in the NBA, he's nothing. Seriously, if either of these players were all that great "range shooters", why haven't they enrolled in the All-Star 3-pt contest?

Panda... if you admit that Bateer has a "speed" disadvantage on defense, what makes you think he has the foot speed for offense? Fact is, Bateer has AWFUL footspeed and a 5 inch verticle. I admit that he's big and he's strong, but beyond that, what does he bring?

Question du Jour: What Can Bateer Bring???
*He's not going to be a force on the boards b/c of his limited jumping ability.
*He's not going to be a force offensively, b/c his post moves are limited AND he has limited jumping ability
*If anything, he will be a defensive liability as you pointed out.
*There's little to "develop" here as far as future potential. (and as a side note, ask yourself why neither Wang nor Bateer commanded the same kind of market value as Yao? It's about potential! Or in these two cases, the lack thereof)
*And in terms of absolute age, he's not as young as your out-of-college rookie.

And just so we're on the same page... do me a favor and REREAD my passage you quoted... I make neither reference nor argument against peoples who want Bateer just b/c he's Chinese. That's not my concern. I evalute THE PLAYER, and THE PLAYER ONLY independent of his origin.

That's why, I'm the one and only...



equalopportunitySAGE

 

OMFG that's the funniest thing I've read. LOL.

 

First you said Bateer has no range, no it becomes that he doesn't shoot 3s good enough. Both of your points are WRONG.

Do your math, shooting 3s at 33% equals shooting 2 pointers at 50%, if that doesn't make you a legit 3 point threat then what does?

As for Bateer's speed and jumping ability, those are his deficiencies, but nothing lethal. His foul trouble'g got part to do with adapting to the new rules, once he gets acclimated he'll cut down the fouls. Whether he'll be a liability on defense remain to be seen with better conditioning and more experience. Keep in mind, the guy just played about 30 NBA games for christ sake.

Bateer is built like an ox and can dominate the paint in stretches, drawing fouls from the opposing players, shoot 3's, launch hook shots and jumpers, that's his value on offense. Be a little slow doesn't prevent him from doing those things on offense.

Sabonis can't move and can't jump, but he is still playing on a deep team because he has skills. That's why Bateer is a valuable
NBA player because he got some rare skills among centers in the NBA, and he's the strongest power player next to Shaq.



Bateer can be an excellent backup center in this league, he just needs his chance to shine.

 

Didn't he play for the Nuggets last year?

If you can't at least showcase your talents while playing for Denver, you ain't going to do it anywhere. For one thing, there are definitely minutes going out there...

In his (admittedly short) NBA career, he averages 11.2 PF/48min, and has shot 39% from the floor.

Add in his age (27), and he's going nowhere in the NBA, IMHO.

 

Ummm..RIght on the BUtton! Yao Ming has already PEAKED also...Perhaps Lebron James might have ALREADY peaked also.

 

I think scoring about 20 points in the world championship this sumeer againist the dream team proof that he can play n averigng more point than yao ming in the national team this summer in he wbc proof something too.
Yes he is slow, ugly, cant jump, and foul alot but he did score like 20 pts vs the usa team , can u name another center from the wbc who score 20 points on the dream team???? not so many i think!!!being 7 feet and weight about 315 lbs is already good enough for the nba even tho he may be slower than a turtle. plus he can shoot

 

i love that idea and ive been saying it myself. cato is tough and would give us a really scary frontcourt with yao. im not saying he should be starting, but id like to see that comibination in some game situations.

 

Look guys, if you want a strong power foward why dont we just pull a sign-and-trade with the Clips by sending MoTay and Cato to the Clips for Olowakandi in the offseason. Kandi got 38 points against TD and the Admiral the other night. Now that would take alot of defensive pressure off of Yao's hands. The contracts should match up being that Kandi-man wants a big contract and Mo and Cato are the most overpaid players in basketball. And we all know he gets no love from the Clips organaztion so he is not going to want to stay. His own general manager still cant even say his name right. He refers to him as "Olah-kandah dude". That's just downright disrespectful. Trust me I saw this a couple of weeks on Fox Sports West in LA. Besides the Clips are dumb enough to make this stupid move anyways. And I dont know about you guys but I would hate to have to deal with SA's new twin towers, TD and tha' Kandi man. The Spurs would be a lil' bit scary then. I say we pull this deal so we can get stronger and keep SA as a weak team as they really should be.

 

Dumbest trade idea EVER.

Yea, they're dumb enough to take on heaps upon heaps of salary that won't go away for a long time..yea right.

 

Tigereye,Why do you think that the Clippers would want to take MoTay back?