Why do people act like Morey didn't make a major trade last preseason?

The OP is right. Les has ruled out tanking and demanded that Morey improve the team via trade. Well, Morey did the best he could and managed to put together a blockbuster trade. He got rid of Martin and Scola at their peak values and got us a top 20 player in Pau. Now, I’ll admit I didn’t like all that value we gave up for an aging, highly paid Pau, but Morey has done things before that I initially didn’t like but turned out great.

With Morey getting Stern’ed, we didn’t even get to see how his whole plan would turn out. We didn’t get to see if he’d actually be able to lure in Nene. We didn’t get to see if that strong front court would make us a formidable playoff team like the Grizzlies. Those guys would certainly fit McHale’s style much better than the team we have now.

So yes, it really sucks for Morey that this team that everyone is complaining about right now wouldn’t even look anything like this if Stern hadn’t abused his power. Morey got royally screwed and Les should be calling Stern and harassing him every day until he agrees to gift us the #1 pick.

 

Which GOOD free agent, the one that the Nuggets dumped half way through the year?

That one?

And are you forgetting that the best PG the Rockets have had in years would have been dealt in that trade?

DD

 

You dont think having two legit post scorers is a good thing? Say what you will about Gasol being soft, I agree with that, but the guy is consistently a 20/10 player (especially with consistent touches in a offense). Nene is also a 16+ and 9 rebs consistently. I just think having two very capable post players like that can be a good thing for a team. We can build guards/shooters around them. I know they are not young, but still had a lot of good years left in them. Especially when neither would be trying to carry the team on their own.

Oh well, this can be debated forever, we will never know. I hope we can do something this summer in FA or the draft.

 

Seriously somebody explain to me the INFATUATION with the Nixed preseason trade for Gasol ?

Thank God Stern killed that trade. Gasol is soft as petals and Nene is where now ?? I just don't see the huge improvement by having Gasol and Nene, to me it looks a pretty average team still with those two. By the way, Nene get injured quite often and Gasol would've been another Lamar Odom in Dallas, Mentally Weak after the trade.

 

You mean the one we are about to lose for nothing?

 

well great hightop, you have proved u love mediocrity… I on the other hand know that the only you get a true superstar is to DRAFT one.. not trade for one..

the OKC model is a perfect example.. they drafted all 3 of their studs and went from the #8 seed two years ago to #1… yet we wallow in the lottery hovering around the 14 pick… right now we sit at #13 and can't move up any higher by our record.. even if we lose out we will still be #13.. unless we get lucky with the ping pong balls we are selecting another mediocre, mid first round guy that will not be anything more than a role player.. PPat sucks, Morris doesn't even play, D-Mo is overseas…

and dallas sits at #19 and won't catch Memphis, so guess what… they will keep that draft pick this year. so we get 2.. Our pick at #13 and the NY pick at #17… fun times…

 

i'm sorry to be so BlUNTED ON REALITY but there is no "superstar" that can carry a franchise. D will ...lolz. Dwight howard....he wants to join a g*ngbang only miami, new york and LA have no more room for fun.

Dragic is a player you can build around. What you are seeing is the emergence of awesomeness. Resign him and groom D-mo, trade martin for a trade exception and we would in essence be rebuilding. I know some of you guys act like every player is dining at luby's at 4pm but the truth is.....we are young! heartache to heartache!


sign goran we must!

 

Yao and Tmac were injured all the time.. but how did we get Tmac hightop?? oh that's right he wanted to come PLAY WITH THE DRAFTED YAO… u won't get a shot at a Tmac type player unless you have a guy already in place that u DRAFTED like Yao Ming..

I've already said, our franchise had bad luck with Yao and Tmac.. but you have a better chance at winning a title by drafting in the top 5, and go research all the NBA titles won by top 5 DRAFTED talent vs top 5 draft busts.. you will lose this argument.. you take your chances and trust your scouts and draft in the top 5 and then you have a shot at mid season trades for second tier stars to get you over the hump..

But doing this way the last 4 years hasn't worked and all you homers can't admit it and wanna blame stern…

we wouldn't have Dragic, Kmart or scola.. so when Lowry went down we would have had Fortson and boykins down the stretch with CLEE, Parsons, Gasol and PPat(NeNE is injured with a foot injury)… that lineup would NOT be better than what we currently have out there.. if you think it is your crazy!

 

Tracy came here via trade. He had no say in the matter.

 

You can't build around a guy that isn't close to being top 5 at his position. That's why the Martin-Scola era has been so dismal.

Les and Morey have to come to grips that we have to throw value out the window and go all in, either for an established star (low odds) or by clearing out the roster for draft picks (better odds)

 

OFFS, stop it, he leveraged his way to Houston.

Good lord.

DD

 

Yes he did - he had that infamous list and was able to force Orlando's hand. Indiana and Phoenix supposedly had better deals on the table, but Tracy's leverage helped make Houston happen.

 

Hard to say. We would have lost Dragic and wouldn't have signed Camby. Maybe that deal could have given us a better future, but probably not this season. That deal wasn't really an earthshaking trade that would have made us contender for certain. Neither Gasol nor Nene, especial Nene, is an alpha dog on a contender. And Gasol is not young.

One thing was for sure. That deal would have made the Lakers much better.

 

Even if we'd pick up Gasol, we'd have about a 3 year window before his contract is up and his skillset seriously declines making him a non-factor. Do you really think we could have knocked off 29 teams (including a reload Laker team) in the NBA with that team in a 3 year period?

It's all about building a championship team not just a slightly better playoff team.

 

if he didn't want to be rox, he could have told rox he won't sign extention. that's the leverage a superstar has. if look around, most teams which got a superstar in trade demanded the player promised to stay. only team didn't do it is nets. looks like they are going to get nothing when dw's contract is expired.

 

Source?

 

Because he didn't. I don't care if he did get Sterned. He got Sterned and that deal never came to fruition. So, he struck out. Again. Gasol was never a Rocket. Nene was never a Rocket. Details don't matter. The fact is those guys aren't on our roster. The fact is that today we're not in the playoffs, again. Today, we're looking at a mediocre draft, again. Today, we do not have a franchise player to build around, again. We have no future. We have no present. All we have is a couple of championships from 800 years ago, and getting further away with every ineffectual season.

Morey isn't the only person to blame. We were in 6th place and likely going to the playoffs not that long ago. McHale and the players pulled one of the biggest choke jobs I've ever seen. They get plenty of blame. Alexander was given the perfect season to tank -- a short season after a lockout, followed by a strong draft -- but he didn't want to take it. He gets plenty of blame.

But, don't hide behind this fantasy that Morey actually executed this trade for Gasol and signed a contract with Nene, because he didn't. Flukes end up nixing done deals all the time. Just because Morey went ahead and leaked the news before the papers were signed doesn't mean the deal was done. It's not done until it's approved by the League office.

This has got to be the worst Rockets season I've ever seen regarding team-building -- a unique combination of a failed execution on a bad strategy.