For everyone who thinks Ming ain't getting enough touches

Yea, they've been to the lottery before.

 

What's up with this repeated emphasis on "playing organized basketball"? Seriously, unless you're a former Div. I talent that was a prospective NBA draftee, we're not going to "take your word" for it. There are literally tens of thousands (if not hundreds) of people in this country who've played high school basketball.

And yea, to the rest of us, what you're saying makes no sense. Maybe for some AAU squad playin' for kicks, you have "emotion" in play here. But at the level of play we're talking about, where results are expected and the players are millionaire PROFESSIONALS, there are different expectations. We know for a fact Rudy T. has worked with the team to get the ball into Yao more. There was an article last week in the Chron focusing on precisely that point. *And* what we also know at the moment is that these plans are a total failure.

Where we choose to place the blame is a different issue. It's partly Yao, it's partly the guards, it's partly the coaching. But I can certainly tell you that there's no way Rudy is looking at tonight's box score, and saying to himself... well, I'm content with the number of touches and shots Yao got. It's not the strategy he's been quoted, publically, to have designed for the squad.

Rudy T.'s going to fix this. Despite your justifications, I have no doubts Yao will average > 8 shots a game between now and the All-Star Game, and > 10 shots a game after the break.

 

The point is: if you want the ball to be jagged, let Ming jag it. He is 7"5 and only 10 feet to the hole, and he is the leading FG shooter in the league. A 40% perimeter shooter will never be more efficient.

Give YM the damn ball, even he has no good post.

 

FOR F*CKS SAKE!!!

see, alotta people on this board AIN"T rockets fans. they're fans of their own f*cking voice. its not like they wanna see the rockets win, they want to see their judgments and assumptions confirmed as true. so they argue and argue what is essentially their opinion even when it is not applicable!

rudy-t said "yao does not want that many touches" his momma said "yao is tired" we all know yao is NOT strong, we all know yao has NOT had a break in 35 years.
yao's fg% is rapidly declining and he does lose the ball alot(which some posters blame on our gaurds!!)

hmmmm, 2 championships and a gold medal, and rudy-t does not know how to work a bigman into the offense?????

NO, they are not as stupid as some posters on this board! there is something up. it is not just franchise and cat being greedy, it is not just rudy being a dumbass, something is up. trust that this will work out.

and if all you like to do is argue your litle point, go join a F*CKING debate team, this board is for ROCKET FANS

 

Basically that said it all Grrrr-am! Nuff said people. Ease off the gaurds and Rudy, we won and will continue to win more than we loose.

 

Can't believe some of these posts- blah blah blah

First a true rocket fan is pretty upset the way we are losing or making it very difficult to win games that we should win.

This offense can and should go through Yao period and if Rudy wants Yao to get low post position and the ball then he will need to adjust the offense and he can and has done it before (including this year)

If Rudy and the guards want Yao to get more shots and more involved they can and should do it.

Truth is nobody in the Rocket organization has said they want Yao to be the first option and he should be. If they get close to .500 I hope Les Alexander steps in and let's everyone know who should be taking 15-18 shots and who should be taking 7-10 shots.

Stop making excuses for Rudy, Steve and the system. And especially Yao, he is a warrior, forget how much he has played because he wants to win and go to the playoffs.

This team is far better with Yao, but you can't tell by the way he is being used.

Yao is not playing too many minutes and if he starts playing more give him the ball, it takes just as much energy for him to run up and down the court watching everyone else shoot 30%.

Ming is being wasted period. We are getting 12-10 from him and he is a 25-12 player right now.

He is hands down our best passer, smartest basketball player and he creates the best mismatch on the team. He can be shown how to get his shot off against anyone.

I'm tired of Glen Rice, Steve, and KT force up more than half there shots against double and triple teams.

Ming can readily adjust to some of the steals he's been giving up on double teams if the Rocket coaches want to take the time to show him.

Man anyone on this BBS that can't see what we have in Yao Ming should go back to playing their "organized ball" . Anybody who has really played BB should step back and look at the last 3 games and know what's wrong with the picture.

 

eventually he'll hit the the rookie wall or the sophmore jinx...it's gonna happen. now when it does happen...do you want this guy shooting more when the games really matter. let's wait 1 more year b4 we funnel the offense through him...let's rely on mobley and francis to carry us.

 

so when francis went through his 5 - 7 game period of bad shooting, was that the 4th year player slump? and when mobley shoots 40% for a stretch is that the 5th year player slump?


ALL players will go through stretches of a season where they shoot poorly or whatever. when discussing where the ball needs to go, you have to FIRST AND FOREMOST look at who is your best creator on the team. before the season started, it was debateable who was better - steve or cuttino. steve was more explosive, but cat was a better one on one penetrator. steve was a better finisher, but cat was a better shooter.

now the tables have flipped and been broken. it's, really, not even much of a debate when you ask who is the best creator on this team. the answer is yao ming.

you - and others - keep harping on "do you want yao shooting over and over again when he's hit the rookie wall?" HELLOOO!! how many times have you seen yao shooting and chucking up brick after brick after brick?! like...umm...never.

you say, don't run it through him until after he hits the rookie wall. does this alleged, mystical "rookie wall" prevent him from passing out of double teams to the 4, 5, and 10 year players on the team? no. does this alleged, mystical "rookie wall" prevent yao from scoring on 5-6 foot jumpers? no.

the "rookie wall" is a combination of two things: 1) the nba defenses adjusting to your offense; and 2) losing the strength in your legs, since you've never played a season this long in your life. now then, someone tell me which of these two apply to yao ming. and while you're at it, tell me how that prevents him from being consistently double teamed?! tell me how many times he's forced a shot over a double team this year? like, none. zero. zip. nada.

which is exactly how much sense it makes to want to keep "relying on steve and cat" to carry the offense this year. none. zero. zip. nada.


later.

 

better yet - sooner.


as in the sooner we find ways to get that man (yao ming) the damned ball, the sooner we become a serious contender - not a primadonna bunch of isolation, 1st round fodder, playoff pretenders.

 

Actually sol705 had some very intelligent things to say. Posters who reply with simply "blah blah blah" or "that was the stupidest post ever" obviously can't even respond to any of the points he made. So unless you can throw out a counter-argument, please just stay quiet, if only to preserve the reputation of this BBS.

 

Are you just speculating? Go check their rookie stats before you open your big month. Shaq was the MAN at Orlando even when both Hardware and N. Anderson was at their prime. I bekieve the same thing was true with Hakeem based on his rookie stats. Malone was a special case, he was not that highly regarded in the draft.

BTW, I've played, coached and watched many years bball, so don't tell me that I don't know about bball.

 

Simple equation:

Steve Francis + Cuttino Mobley = LOTTERY FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW...

Steve Francis + Cuttino Mobley + Yao Ming - (Yao Ming shot attempts and touches) = LOTTERY THIS YEAR AGAIN

Steve Francis + Yao Ming + (Cuttino Mobley as third option) = Playoffs this year.

Here's another simple equation:

15 X 2 X .593 = 17.79

In other words
15 shot attempts for a guy AVERAGING 59.3% shooting yields 18 points a game.

 

plus the freebies...

 

i'm not saying that you know nothing about basketbal, but if you attack somebody about not checking the stats..
you do know Hardaway wasn't even drafted when Shaq was a rookie. he was a rookie the year after Shaq, so i find it hard to believe he was at his prime.

 

Not saying this may apply to you, but, my coach has played and watched many years of Basketball (as he says) and I swear he STILL doesn't know $hit about Ball!

 

Ming has to establish position in the post to get touches...
With the zone...it's legal for the defense to double team well before the ball can be dumped to the post.

Dream didn't have that problem.