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[FOX26] Rockets Pick Up Option For Goran Dragic

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HMMMHMM, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. BleedRocketsRed

    BleedRocketsRed Contributing Member

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    If he is restricted, yes.

    Also he could have accepted the offer sheet and taken a one year deal to become unrestricted before heading into FAcy.

    Lets put June 2011 into context:
    -The league was about to head into a lockout. Makes no sense to agree to a contract when you know it probably will be cheaper after the lockout is resolved.
    -We seemed very committed to Kyle Lowry as our starting PG (with good reason, he was playing great)
    -Also who knows how close the Gasol deal was at this point (they probably started negotiating it before or during the lockout). With Lowry as the legit starting PG and Gasol as the star big (along with a ton of cap), this team had a ton of promise (with Goran not being a part of future plans).
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    Getting deep into the playoffs would enhance the possibility of Gogi staying. Plain and simple.
     
  3. durvasa

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    How high would you go to keep him?
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I would match any and all offers and add that extra year. Even if we decide to trade him later, you at least have him as an asset.

    DD
     
  5. tosweet68

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    If his main concern is winning, he'd pick us over Portland anyways. We are a better team than they are.

    I don't see Phoenix trying to get him back, since they traded him in the first place.

    Not sure who all the other teams that might be interested are, but even as a FA, Morey could try to sign him before free agency officially starts.
     
  6. BleedRocketsRed

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    I agree with this.

    But since he is unrestricted, he (or his agent) would have to give us the opportunity to match.

    We would probably have to make an initial offer (one which doesn't insult him and turn him off from the franchise completely).

    WHat do you think that would be?
     
  7. daywalker02

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    The extra year is only helpful if he really needs job security but he doesn't need that so much because he is coveted by several teams.
     
  8. dartherus

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    Exactly, to get a player, management must show him he is really appreciated, and the offer must be done before anyone.

    At least it worked with Manu in his first big contract, he didn't wait for any other offer and took directly what San Antonio gave to him.
     
  9. BleedRocketsRed

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    At the end of the day, it will probably be money which talks.

    Portland has an attractive team (LaMarcus Aldridge, Nicolas Batum, a bright future which he could work with).

    If Phoenix loses Nash, then he is an attractive option to them. Just because they let him go does not mean they wouldn't want him back (given his play as a starter, plus he is a marketable fan favorite there, they did bring Nash back after letting him go, though Nash did make two all-star games in Dallas).
     
  10. daywalker02

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    San Antonio was his first team and the team that gave him the chance to play in the NBA.

    It is like Scola and the Rockets in a way......

    Houston on the other hand is second to Phoenix in that department so the offer has to be better.
     
  11. tosweet68

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    Not if his feelings were hurt when the Suns traded him.

    Also the extra year could help, because that means more money and security is always nice, since you never know when you might get injured or something.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    Good point.
    He is young and going towards his prime....

    BTW ... Lou Williams is available as a backup.... if Dragon walks....
     
  13. tehG l i d e

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    If Portland gets him..Dragic, Batum, and Aldridge are great young players to build on.
     
  14. Shroopy2

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    What if the Gasol trade went went through.

    And Dragic is absolutely BLOWING up in New Orleans now? Along with a team of Luis Scola, Lamar Odom & Kevin Martin, possibly BETTER than the Rockets?

    You'd then say "WE LET him GET AWAY!"

    ( Rockets would have Jeremy Lin stepping in for Lowry and we'd NOW be getting the "Linsanity" (look at the mania Dragic is creating now...and imagine Linsanity was 2 times BETTER :eek:) )

    Isnt this exactly what ASSET collecting IS? Getting SEVERAL players on the team who can CONTRIBUTE or get DEALT? While it lasts, its a good thing Dragic isnt being a Jonny Flynn or Aaron Brooks even.
     
  15. zzpot

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    This^^^. It's the smartest hind site post I have seen so far. Goran came to the rockets and played under Rick Adelman and not Kevin Mchale before the lockout. No way to know if Adelman and is crew shared there thoughts on Goran to Morey and his team or not. The lockout and coaching change screwed everything up for the Rockets in knowing who was who and what was what with the players. There was no summer camp and no contact with the players do to the lockout before a week or more prier to the 12-25-11 regular season start date.

    This whole shortened season has not been the best situation for the Rockets.

    we will have to see if Goran can stay in the off-season but in the end the game will go on.

    zzpot:cool:
     
  16. zzpot

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    I think we (Morey) bluff('s) at matching any and all... see if teams bite and evaluate how much we hurt them in the future with cap space (Regarding their offer for Goran) and if that team is in the western conformance or in the East!

    IMHO. You have to squeeze teams and play mind games...I think Morey can do that....It may just scare other teams off of Dragic knowing that Morey stated he and Les would match and brought back Klow and Scola as he said he would last year. Morey may have earned a bluff or two from that deal.. And people here were screaming "bloody murder" that we over paid for both players....( Klow & Scola ). I read your posts people!!

    We still have 9 games to play and baring a disaster, the playoffs. Then we have the draft, and after the draft, the whole landscape of the NBA will be a lot different than it is today.

    I think we can keep Goran, and not over pay, if Morey and is team keeps their heads on right. Lets say Morey and Les over pay just a bit... Then we have a strong back court to make moves (Trades) down the road or we just go out and win like hell with what we have!!

    Lets not get too caught up in hand ringing over Goran Dragic right now... Lets just rejoice in our winning games and hope we win more than the other guys.

    zzpot:grin:
     
  17. HMMMHMM

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    I is so smart! Murray so dumb! :p

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  18. mattrbowers

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    Morey?
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    OMG i read the thread title and almost orgasamed thinking this was news for next season:mad:
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    1. Kudos for recognizing the choice between picking up his option and not doing so before it happened. You is smarter than Murray? Maybe. You certainly is smarter than people like DD who didn't even think about such things at the time and is only now b****ing about it.

    2. I am not sure picking up the option meant the Rockets didn't have him in their long term plans. It simply meant that the Rockets valued their potential 2011 cap room more than they did the "right of first refusal" they would have had on Dragic as a restricted free agent.

    Remember the circumstances: With Yao Ming's retirement, the Rockets were going to have some possible cap room (subject to a new CBA) for the first time in years-- as well as a need for a new star player and a center. They simply chose not to let the extra $ that Goran would have commanded as a RFA (likely somewhere between $4 mil a year and the MLE) eat into their cap space. An extra $2 to $3 million could have been important in a pursuit for everyone from Nene to Sam Dalembert.

    Of course, they didn't view Goran Dragic as some sort of budding star back then-- he hadn't shown himself to be one yet (unlike Kyle Lowry, he didn't significantly outplay the starter when he came off the bench). He was a pretty decent backup PG, and it would be ridiculous for them to have allowed keeping a good backup PG jeopardize their chances at filling a greater need.

    So, they elected to let him become an unrestricted FA this season. Doesn't mean he won't be back, they just need to convince him to come back rather than just matching a contract offer.
     

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