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2012 MVP Race

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ItsMyFault, Mar 25, 2012.

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Who will win the 2012 NBA MVP?

Poll closed Mar 29, 2012.
  1. Kevin Durant

    60.5%
  2. LeBron James

    39.5%
  1. Pete the Cheat

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    unfortunately for him MVP is heavily weighted on team success

    but, if I was starting a team I would take Love over either Lebron or Durant
     
  2. SacTown

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    Bron Bron
     
  3. emjohn

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    It would take a miracle for a guy on a losing, non-playoff team to win MVP.

    MVP is not Most Outstanding Award.

    He's made a great case for first team All-NBA, though.
     
  4. ItsMyFault

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    Um, how was he robbed last season? :confused:

    Everyone around the league expected Rose to win that award.
     
  5. SacTown

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    Yeah, last season Rose deserved it. Bron Bron shut him down tho in the playoffs, but still as a body of work in the regular season, Rose deserved it. This year, well, it's 2012 - The year of the King. So Lebron will get MVP and a ring. Not even close.
     
  6. ItsMyFault

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    Don't be so quick on the ring part.
     
  7. IndianPlaya

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    Are you being sarcastic? The Heat look weaker than last year. And the Bulls look stronger than this year.

    I'd pick the Bulls, Lakers, and Thunder over Heat in 7 game series.

     
  8. GreatOne1978

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    Again, I really don't like James, but he is the best player in the league and has been every year for about the past 5 seasons. Last year, he averaged 27/8/7 while shooting 51% from the field and 33% from 3. Rose averaged fewer points on far worse shooting (45%) and had less than 1 assist/game more than James did from the 3 spot.

    The person who is most valuable to their team is the one who plays the best, and James played better than Rose did last year. It's not even close.
     
  10. GreatOne1978

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    its more than that. Chicago had the best record in the NBA. Rose was the best player on the best team. Noah and Boozer were injured and missed plenty of games and Chicago still didn't miss a beat. Also Chicago won more close games than Miami did and they had a better head to head record with Miami.
     
  11. ItsMyFault

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    Being the best player skill-wise or statistics-wise doesn't always get you the MVP. Ask Kobe during his prime. Wins count too. Bulls had more wins which had a lot to do with it.

    James handles the ball as any PG would so I don't know why you're bringing up the 3 position. He virtually plays 1 and 3 at the same time considering how much the ball is in his hands.

    It's not close? If it wasn't close, why was there a general consensus that it was Rose's MVP to lose? My goodness. I don't even know why people are bringing this up. This really shouldn't even be a debate.

    http://www.nba.com/2011/news/05/03/mvp-award/index.html

    113 first place votes.
     
  12. Hammer755

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    You guys are absolutely right - the media vote was overwhelming and expected, and Rose was the best player on the team with the best record. None of those things mean it was the right choice.
     
  13. ItsMyFault

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    You're entitled to your opinion but there is no "right" choice. It's the majority opinion, including fans being able to vote and the fans agreed it was Rose too. Obviously Rose fit most people's definition of what an MVP is and he got the award. I just don't see how you can debate by saying something like "it's not even close" to something like this.
     
  14. Hammer755

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    Here's what I said:
    "James played better than Rose did last year. It's not even close."

    I don't know how you could possibly refute that.
     
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    MVP is more about team success these days. Heat are widely expected to win the regular season by a landslide, biggest LeBron nuthugger Hollinger was calling 90% winning rate like 1996 Bulls. So far they haven't lived up to the expectation. Bulls have less losses and Thunders have the same losses. Rose is out since he's injured so many games. But Durant has a stronger case so far.

    Unless Heat top the league in regular season, LeBron will not win the MVP. And I don't recall any player won 3 MVPs before he won a championship.
     
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    Big fan of Harden and Westbrook but without them I don't think they have nearly enough. If Harden has to start with no Durant they don't have a bench. Unless they committed to playing defense consistently they wouldn't have the offense to carry them.
     
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    He had better statistics. Yes. I don't disagree about that.

    Players have had better statistics than MVP winners in the past. This isn't the most outstanding player award like someone suggested earlier. A lot of other things go into it. Overall body of work including what he did for his team, most people obviously felt Rose did a better job than LeBron did.
     
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    It isn't "Best Statistics Award," it is "Most VALUABLE Player" and a regular season award.

    Rose was the best player on a better team (and didn't have the supporting cast which LBJ has). You are telling me that LBJ was more valuable to the Heat than Rose to the Bulls last year? Rofl if you believe that.

    Remember when Steve Nash earned the award two years in a row despite multiple players with better statistics?
     
  19. Hammer755

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    And I'll go back to what I said before. The player that performed the best is the one who is most valuable to his team (IMO, obviously). Any other means of determining such is simply subjective.
     
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    Lebron has been the best player this year. But his mini-slump to end the year will sway certain voters.

    He's been more valuable to the Heat than Durant is to the Thunder. But these 2 matchups can sway voters. KD won the first matchup.
     

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