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mcgrady33090 · Mar 22, 2012

anyone has the link? i heard parsons is at 11.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/stor...ookies-120321&_slug_=nba-rookie-watch-redraft

Scolalist · Mar 22, 2012

Morey really hit a grand slam.

Just wish we had taken Kawhi instead of Morris, I was jumping up and down when he was there for us to take. Even Faried for that matter.

robbie380 · Mar 22, 2012

Scolalist said: ↑

Morey really hit a grand slam.

Just wish we had taken Kawhi instead of Morris, I was jumping up and down when he was there for us to take. Even Faried for that matter.
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A grand slam? Our first pick in the draft can't even crack the rotation. How does that qualify as a grand slam?

rockbox · Mar 22, 2012

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A grand slam? Our first pick in the draft can't even crack the rotation. How does that qualify as a grand slam?
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Our first pick can't crack the rotation mainly because 2nd round pick is a poor man's Scottie Pippen.

Air Langhi · Mar 22, 2012

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story?page=Rookies-120321&_slug_=nba-rookie-watch-redraft

No. 1 pick: The Cavaliers select Kyrie Irving
No. 1 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Kyrie Irving

Viewed by most people as the top prospect in this class back in June, Irving has not disappointed. In fact, he's probably been better than anyone expected considering his injury at Duke and the lockout. He's had a terrific rookie season by anyone's standards.

Not only is he the best player in this group, but he also has the brightest future. That's what a team hopes to get from a No. 1 overall pick -- impact now and more impact later.

No. 2 pick: The Timberwolves select Tristan Thompson
No. 2 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Derrick Williams

This is not a slight on Derrick Williams but rather a dream of featuring powerful bigs Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic with an athletic and long phenom like Thompson. As good as Minnesota's two brutes are, they are still below-the-rim players, which is not an issue for Thompson.

Although Thompson is still a raw player on offense, he would be helped by Rick Adelman's system. He'd be bad today, amazing tomorrow.

No. 3 pick: The Jazz select Enes Kanter
No. 3 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Enes Kanter

Considering the Jazz wanted immediate help and are loaded with power forwards, Kanter still seems like the right choice. The Jazz see a Kanter-Paul Millsap-Derrick Favors rotation down the road.

Kanter's bulk and lack of fluidity concern me in terms of his future, but we need to look only at Pekovic's rise to see how much better Kanter can get quickly. He has the talent and size to be a space-eater around the rim with the hands to make teams pay if they leave him.

No. 4 pick: The Cavaliers select Derrick Williams
No. 4 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Tristan Thompson

Williams, who has the game to be a top-three scorer on a good team, is a lot more like Antawn Jamison than Thompson because of his ability to play out on the perimeter, so he would develop beautifully in Cleveland alongside Irving. The duo would become a devastating pick-and-pop tandem.

This pick would give the Cavs two core players in one draft, which is what they hope will happen with Thompson.

No. 5 pick: The Raptors select Jonas Valanciunas
No. 5 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Jonas Valanciunas

The Raptors need a franchise center, but not right away, so Valanciunas is still the perfect choice. He's developing very well in Europe, especially in learning how to defend with his size and long arms and without fouling. I love how he's learned to keep his arms up on defense, something many NBA bigs still don't do. (I'm talking to you, Samuel Dalembert.)

Valanciunas should make a positive impact next season and improve greatly in a few years. He just turned 20 this month.

No. 6 pick: The Wizards select Kawhi Leonard
No. 6 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Jan Vesely

What teams like the Wizards need more than anything else is stability -- players who can start or play a lot and do so with consistency and reliability. It's a big reason that Washington traded for Nene.

Leonard would give the Wizards their starting small forward for years to come, complementing John Wall on both ends of the court. He plays like a seasoned pro, which is exactly what the Wizards hoped to get when they drafted Jan Vesely and Chris Singleton, but have yet to see. Both of those guys may have more upside than Leonard, but they possess far greater downside, too.

No. 7 pick: The Bobcats select Bismack Biyombo
No. 7 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Bismack Biyombo

The Cats still would get their future Dikembe Mutombo, which was the right call in June and now. Biyombo will be so much better as he matures and learns the NBA game from a macro and micro level. Think of it like this: Imagine Biyombo at UConn. Think he'd be rated higher than Andre Drummond?

Biyombo is not a surefire starter -- not without fine-tuning and better coaching -- but he should always be a rotation guy even if he never gets better (which is highly unlikely).

No. 8 pick: The Pistons select MarShon Brooks
No. 8 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Brandon Knight

With Rodney Stuckey and Ben Gordon on Detroit's roster, any rookie guard would have to share time. I like Knight a lot, but Brooks fills a bigger need and has just as much upside (more downside, too, though).

Brooks has the look of someone who can be a top-two scorer for his team, and he's also a willing rebounder and defender. He'd be a nice fit next to Stuckey.

No. 9 pick: The Bobcats select Nikola Vucevic
No. 9 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Kemba Walker

I know I have the Bobcats taking Biyombo, but getting two solid bigs in one draft is choice stuff. Vucevic can play next to Biyombo; in fact, they'd be ideal together in time. Vucevic loves to face up and is an agile big man who should be able to defend power forwards most nights. He's not a shot-blocker, and he needs to be more physical in the paint, but the two of them would form a future force on defense and the boards.

No. 10 pick: The Kings select Kenneth Faried
No. 10 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Jimmer Fredette

This is one of the easiest picks to make simply because of Faried's talent and the Kings' need for someone like him. Toughness, energy, explosive athleticism and a good feel for the game -- all things every team needs but none more than Sacramento.

A Faried-Cousins front line would be terrific from day one. I'm not sure anyone could have saved Paul Westphal's job, but Faried would have at least helped the Kings to a much better start.

No. 11 pick: The Warriors select Chandler Parsons
No. 11 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Klay Thompson

Mark Jackson and the management team in Oakland hope to make significant strides on defense, and Parsons is an immediate ticket toward that goal. He's been possibly the best defender on Kevin Durant I've ever seen, with the length, size, mobility and coordination to bother big wings and small power forwards for years to come.

No. 12 pick: The Jazz select Brandon Knight
No. 12 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Alec Burks

The Jazz and their fans love a focused, mature, hardworking player perhaps more than any other NBA city. Knight oozes with potential, lives to get better on the court and is a great fit into how Utah likes to play.

No. 13 pick: The Suns select Kemba Walker
No. 13 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Markieff Morris

The Suns miss Goran Dragic (traded to Houston) and Aaron Brooks (playing in China). Walker can play like those guys for a lot less money over the next four years. He's got a great midrange game, which is perfect for scoring off middle screens and in early offense when the defense collapses to the rim.

No. 14 pick: The Rockets select Jan Vesely
No. 14 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Marcus Morris

The Rockets didn't expect to need to play their No. 14 pick this season (even though they've featured their second-rounder, Parsons, all season). Vesely could have stayed in Europe for one more season, which could have helped him, then come to the NBA more ready to contribute to a good team.

No. 15 pick: The Spurs select Alec Burks
No. 15 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Kawhi Leonard

The Spurs are always in need of athletes with upside, so Burks works perfectly here. He is also unlike any of their other shooting guards and ultimately would become a fine player to replace the minutes Manu Ginobili loses each year to injury.

No. 16 pick: The Sixers select Markieff Morris
No. 16 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Nikola Vucevic

Either Morris twin would work here, simply because Philly needed perimeter shooting heading into the draft. With Elton Brand and Thaddeus Young at the power forward spot, Markieff makes more sense than Marcus. He's an excellent shooter, he's from Philly and he's the kind of guy Doug Collins would love to coach.

No. 17 pick: The Knicks select Isaiah Thomas
No. 17 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Iman Shumpert

Thomas has beaten out Jimmer Fredette in Sacramento, so he beats him out here too. Both guys seem to have a lot of Jeremy Lin in their game, but Thomas is the more electric guy with the better decision-making skills thus far. Even as a backup, he'd help the Knicks a great deal.

No. 18 pick: The Wizards select Marcus Morris
No. 18 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Chris Singleton

Morris hasn't done anything yet as a pro, but the young man is stuck with a coach who does not believe in him. In Washington he'd have been playing from day one and would be the surprise guy of this draft.

In Leonard and Morris, the Wiz would have two solid rotation players with at least one starter.

No. 19 pick: The Bucks select Tobias Harris
No. 19 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Tobias Harris

I still think Harris can be a fine pro, even though he does a lot of things wrong right now. But there's every reason to believe that he'll figure things out in time, and I assume the Bucks expected this of him when they got him on draft night. Guys who put up numbers but have no clue how to play are the ones to watch at this age.

No. 20 pick: The Rockets select Donatas Motiejunas
No. 20 pick in actual 2011 NBA draft: Donatas Motiejunas

The big Lithuanian has made significant progress overseas and looks to be a rotation player, if not a starter, within a season or two in the NBA. He would give the Rockets the size they covet and might be able to play both big positions on each end of the floor.
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Xerobull · Mar 22, 2012

robbie380 said: ↑

A grand slam? Our first pick in the draft can't even crack the rotation. How does that qualify as a grand slam?
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You can get him at Denny's for cheap.

Icehouse · Mar 22, 2012

So I guess I can't get mad at us passing on a SF of the future at #14 when we got a SF of the future in the 2nd round? Does Parsons have more upside than Leonard?

Nook · Mar 22, 2012

Icehouse said: ↑

So I guess I can't get mad at us passing on a SF of the future at #14 when we got a SF of the future in the 2nd round? Does Parsons have more upside than Leonard?
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Most will not agree with me, but yes I believe Parsons has more upside. He has better basketball instincts and is a better passer, man defender, ball handler and I believe will become a decent shooter.

Leonard reminds me of a slightly longer Stacy Augmon.

lr22 · Mar 22, 2012

Just rewrite your memory as we drafted Parsons at 14 and Mook at 38. Poor man's Pippen for #14 and a potential all-star (who can deny this) for #38, not bad at all.

Ziggy · Mar 22, 2012

I don't get why he doesn't like Shumpert.

ashishduh · Mar 22, 2012

Klay Thompson out of top 20?

robbie380 · Mar 22, 2012

rockbox said: ↑

Our first pick can't crack the rotation mainly because 2nd round pick is a poor man's Scottie Pippen.
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Last time I checked Bud and even TWill both were able to get playing time this year. Morris has the skill set to play next to Parsons on the court....but he hasn't shown anything when he has played. Parsons isn't the one keeping Morris off the court.

robbie380 · Mar 22, 2012

Icehouse said: ↑

So I guess I can't get mad at us passing on a SF of the future at #14 when we got a SF of the future in the 2nd round? Does Parsons have more upside than Leonard?
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I'm curious what Parsons upside really is. He seems to be showing more with each game and his ability to pass and handle the ball is pretty surprising. His main problem is his shooting and it mostly seems like it is in his head. When he has confidence he hits shots....when he doesn't he misses them badly. On top of that his defense seems to be improving each game. I was pretty blown away when I saw these numbers. I posted them in another thread and I'll repost them here along with Kawhi's numbers.

Lebron's FG defense - 127/329 38.6%
Lebron's 3pt defense - 58/149 38.9%

Kobe's FG defense - 158/430 36.7%
Kobe's 3pt defense - 61/166 36.7%

Wade's FG defense - 88/258 34.1%
Wade's 3pt defense - 35/96 36.5%

Parson's FG defense - 134/370 36.2%
Parson's 3pt defense - 32/100 32.0%

Kawhi's FG defense - 119/285 41.8%
Kawhi's 3pt defense - 24/70 34.3%

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