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ClutchCity.net Game Thread: Rockets @ Grizzlies 12/13/2002

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 12, 2002.

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  1. 3-a-charm

    3-a-charm Member

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    I felt that if they lost this game it would make the Kings game meaningless. It is worthless to beat the elite and then lose to the cellar-dwellers. Lofty expectations will come crashing down. This team has many bad habits and still a long way to go to be a league contender.
     
  2. quintessany

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    As with all young teams, the Rox failed to pull out a win. Memphis a young team as well, so the Rox have no excuse. Yao performed worse that his stats indicate. He made numerous costly turnovers and mistakes. The game was an all-around MISERABLE performance by the Rox.
     
  3. RocketGuy3

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    Damn, this sux, I can't believe how wrong I was. Jason was actually the guy who killed us... he sux, how could we let this happen when we were playing such good perimiter defense and defense overall lately? Especially on the opposing guards... I just don't understand... Now there's like 4 NBA point gaurds that have career highs against the Rockets.

    It's cool, though, I'll get over it. Memphis is playing well right now, and were at home. Tough loss, but respectable nonetheless. I still have faith in the Rockets and think they'll pick up where they left off a few days ago again soon (hopefully against the Clips). It just SUX HORRIBLY that we can't win 3 F**KING GAMES IN A ROW!!! That should be our goal for before the New Year comes around.

    MemphisX, I'm sorta confused by that last sentence in your last post. Were you saying that the Rockets are really, really good, or just Yao, or both?
     
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    I can't agree with you more. We can't just blame one palyer for the defeat. Yao got 6 TO too.
     
  5. DreamWeaver

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    82 shots taken by Francis, Rice and Cat. That's one of the reasons why we lost. Even on a bad night, Yao was 7 for 13 (and 4 for 4 from the charity line). When will our guards learn that we have a much better chance of scoring passing the ball inside to Yao. :(
     
  6. joe the joker

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    Come on man,dont be so harsh.It's just a game.

    Progress takes time,so just be patient.
     
  7. bben212

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    Yao performed worse than his stats indicate.
     
  8. tiger

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    Ok, heart-broken. But i feel hope. Lost like this was really hard to swallow, but would you rather we lose half way to the end? I take this as the growing pain, i bet this will be with this team for a while. By team i mean the players, coach, .....and very important fans like you and me. I all go get some bandage prepared to patch my heart up....
     
  9. bben212

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    Yao may have a little off or so so game. But he is just rooki and you feel that way because you hold too much expectation of him. He can learn from it becaue I believe he has the smarts to adjuest next time. But for some vets, they have bben around and they deserve more scurinity and concern.
     
  10. walterw

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    It was a disheartening loss.
    Coach made bad decisions during crunch time in the 4th quarter.
    First off: the decision of getting KT for EG about only 2 min left in the game and Rox led by 1. Rox has the ball, when it swung to KT,
    he immediately ran his one-on-one drill. It failed and caused Yao a foul for fighting offensive rebond. Grizzlie made 2 FT and took the lead by one.
    Question: Do we need KT at that time point? What for?
    It should not be the defense because EG has been playing defensively well. For his offense, you got be kidding.
    Before then Rox has been running ISO for Cat, which I really don't have objection, because Cas has had hot hands.

    Second: Mooch should be put in for setting up the play. Whatever he ran would definetely better than Stevie's bone-head play.

    Third: Failed miserably to enforce pasing the ball, not mentioning throw the rock to Ming.

    Steve did something good, but also did something really bad that cost us the game.
     
  11. SaFe

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    Yao did not play great in this game. However, down the stretch, he made the big shots, got the big boards, and didn't make man ymistakes (only one being the offensive foul). Steve on the other hand......
     
  12. quintessany

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    Gasol is just a second year, yet he dominated. You cannot blame it on youth. To answer your earlier question, Yao commited 6 costly turnovers and 5 fouls, including a costly foul in the last minute of regulation.
     
  13. joe the joker

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    And dont always blame on Franchise and Mobley,as it takes time for them to adjustment to the new team play.

    Remember the 6 TOs of Yao?Hr's also responsible.
    The entire team should make a decision on sth now,I think.
     
  14. sun12

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    As we said before, Rox does not have a defensive stopper yet to stop the opponent's guards/SF. We also can not stop the opponent's PF.
     
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    Ming played a decent game. His stats: 18 points, 7-13 FG, 4-4 FT, 15 rebounds, 3 asst, 5 fouls, 6 TOs. The 6 TOs looks bad in stat, but they are actually not bad. I only saw the 2nd half. 2TO came from 2 passes while Ming has the ball near high post and passed to team mates and they weren't looking at him. 2 of them are offensive fouls against Gasol where he knocked him down with his elbow while trying to drive to basket.

    It's tough loss. I hope Rockets learn from it. Everytime they over dribble and ISO, they lose a close game. Eventually everybody will release to take the ball to the big man in the paint in crunch time.

    Ming is clearly learning something in each game! Tonight he was trying to drive to the basket more aggresively, instead of settle for fadeaway jumper. I have yet to see him make mistakes twice. Very intelligient player.
     
  16. bben212

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    Why not? becase they think they are leaders or some fans think they are. They should be treated harsher way. I am not saying they are not good players. I bet you. majority of chinese fans from mainland china who are not houston homers just dislike the above dudes. They just watch rockets games and make judements on their play. They are not concerned anything else.
     
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    J. Williams also went wild by scoring 25 pts and 12 assists, with only 1 turnover. Who should we blame for letting him dominate the game too?


     
  18. MASTERASIA

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    Six costly turnover? Tell me how it was costly? Did Memphis score on the turnovers? Costly foul in final min? What the hell you want him to do, Let Gasol score on a easy bucket? Gettatta here TROLL!
     
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    That's ridiculous. A lot of Yao's turnovers were because the players haven't gotten used to him and don't watch for the ball. Hopefully this will be fixed real soon. I'm blaming this one on Steve. He played great up until crunchtime came. Then TO, TO, stupid shot. Notice that 3 he made he was wide open because of Yao. JWill seems to always go off on Steve because Steve gets into this 1-on-1 crap and he just can't do it with the spotlight. Not alone.
     
  20. RocketGuy3

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    You, sir, are an idiot. Many people were saying before the season started that one of the reasons Ming would be able to develop better on this team is because there wouldn't be much immediate pressure on him to help the Rockets. Their first goal for this season was to get to the playoffs, and that would be a possibility with a healthy Rockets roster even without Ming. Many of us have forgotten about that. The Rockets are a very talented team even WITHOUT Ming. I believe we were about 6-3 before Ming really started to come out in a big way.

    This is a good team with a GOOD BACKCOURT. That backcourt that you're trashing was this ENTIRE team a couple years back, and they nearly made the playoffs. Don't you see how great it can be to combine a backcourt with that kind of talent with the frontcourt we have now?

    Hell, I don't care if you do, but I'm sure Ming does and he's much brighter than you... and more important for that matter. And you can go to hell with your little "dogs eat ****" Chinese proverb. Doesn't even make any sense, BTW, did you make that up?
     
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