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You Can Celebrate All You Want. I Don't Want This Guy Here At ALL!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Almu, Aug 24, 2000.

  1. EckelsSucksMyA$$

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    Anyone ever heard of Rodney Rogers? He was suppose to have this upside coming out of ClipLand but everyone was worried about his attitude. He went to Phoenix and lo and behold he became a productive player. 6th man of the year productive. I'm not saying that Mo will have the same turnaround that Rogers had, but the surroundings a player is in can really dictate the attitude a player has.

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  2. ROCKETBOOSTER

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    Eckelssucks- Thats what Loy Vaught thought.

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    Taylor come from the bad L.A. Cllipers team I think Mo its going to be perfect for us he have zise and he is a good power foward.



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  4. RocketsPimp

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    I understand where Almu is coming from, but I'm going into this with a positive attitude. There is alot that Mo can do to help this team. Obviously he can score, something the Rockets seriously lacked last season from the post position. It's also painfully obvious that he has ALOT to prove to the fans of Houston and the NBA in general. He is going to have to play hungry and show us he wants to win.

    Also, I'm not worried about Falk too much. Sure the guy has power, but he still gets paid by the player he represents. If a player wants to come here to play and we have the money to sign said player, Falk has no choice but to get the deal done or lose a commission and possibly a client. Oh, don't forget it was Falk that screwed Mo when he went public saying Mo was looking for a max salary deal. I think this turned alot of teams away, figuring they were out of the running for him. If Falk had kept the demands reasonable from the start Mo would have been signed already to a decent deal...in the United States.

    As for losing Lottery Race 2001....YEA!!! I can not take another season like we just went through. Losing SUCKS! This team needs to develop a winning attitude on the court and being frequent "winners" of the lottery isn't the way to go. Ask the Clippers or Mo.

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  5. Surfguy

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    All of this crap coming out of the anti-Mo camp and he hasn't even stepped on the court yet. We will have to come back to this post at midseason to see where everyone stands once again. For the record, I'm pro-Mo. I think he can learn a lot playing with the Rockets and can contribute to the Rocket's success this season. Why anyone would want to pounce the guy before he's even had his chance here is unclear to me???

    Rudy doesn't put up with **** from noone. If Mo is a problem, Rudy will deal with it and we will move on. I think signing him with the exception is an excellent gamble. If it doesn't work out, so be it...no skin off of our backs.

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  6. heypartner

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    I am a huge fan of Mo Taylor. Let me tell you why:

    1. He'll take away from the wrath against Mobley,

    2. Carlos Rogers will never be dissed again, like he ever deserved it,

    3. He usually stays away from the basket, so he won't get in the way, and

    4. He is now a Rocket.

    Welcome Mo. We needed you.
     
  7. BigDog

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    This is funny. Do any of you follow football? This is the Carl Pickens story of basketball. A digruntled player on a team that doesn't know what class is. Pickens was labeled a cancer, a tyrant, a misfit. Now he's with my beloved Titans and there haven't been any negative stories told about him. Losing breeds negativity. Any of you who have ever participated in a team sport know that you don't play for fun, you play to win. I'ld be pissed off too if the team I was on NEVER won. Hell, I'ld do alot of the same things most players on losing teams do, complain. NOONE wants to be considered a loser. That's just not in our nature, but losing is a fact of life. I'm glad Mo doesn't except failure. that to me says more than anything else. He wants to be in a position to contribute to a winning organization. The Rockets have that in place. A positive attitude. By the way, sorry for the long post. [​IMG]

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  8. desihooper

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    i think one thing that sticks out in my mind about the rockets getting Mo Taylor is that he is an offensive minded power forward. The fact is, every team in the NBA is trying to catch the champs, that's how it is every year. You try to get people that will exploit any weaknesses that the teams standing in your way have. Now, in no way am I labeling Mo the next Barkley, but he is an offensive threat. The rockets could always hang with the Lakers when Barkley was here because they could NEVER stop him... sorry Bob Horry just doesn't do it for me (although I'm glad he did good in '95) The Spurs have Duncan, Blazers have Wallace, Jazz have Malone... we need someone who can put pressure on these guys by going at them... maybe pick up a few cheap fouls in the process, thus taking them out of the game for a little while. This, I guess you could say, could be Taylor's defensive contribution to the Rockets. I think it would be interesting to see what kind of numbers Taylor put up against the elite power forwards in the West. Does he draw a lot of fouls?? Do the other power forwards have to go to the bench early because of two quick fouls?? Things like that go overlooked often. I hope that at the very least Mo is a temporary solution... best case of course is that Mo and the rockets (and the BBS posters) live happily ever after... But i don't believe that it would be fair to pass judgement on this KID until we get more facts. He's only 23... Does he step up in big games? Does he not back down from the other All-Star power forwards? i guess we'll have to wait and find out!! Unless someone can pull up those stats from previous meetings.

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  9. Old Man Rock

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    Almu,

    Of course you like Jet’s post and anyone else who agrees with you. But I don't agree with you and I hate this thread and wish you would delete it. I’ll tell you what I hate most about it is your timing. I understand everyone has opinions and you are entitled to yours but there was ample time for you to voice it long before. Instead you wait till now, when the deal is about to be consummated, to open your mouth! I question your timing and your loyalty to the Rockets. Okay so you don’t agree , but you have to wait till the eve of the deal to bad mouth it! That’s bullsh*t! That’s like showing up drunk at your brothers wedding and telling him his bride’s a w**** and you know cause you f*cked her.

    That being said I absolutely disagree with you. Mo has more athleticism than any power forward on our roster now. He is young and he can run and score. And you are wrong about 90 percent of the nba players being able to do that. Okay so he may not win any awards for Mr. Congeniality, but he never claimed to be a good boy. He just wanted out of LA and I don’t see anything dishonorable about that. The guy has talent if you can’t see that than go back and look at some film. There is so much upside to this trade and the downside is minimal. Yes it is a risk, signing any NBA player is a risk… but the risk is about as minimal as you can get in this league for someone with talent.

    I could go on with this explaining how a true Rocket fan would at least give Mo a chance before eating him alive. And Rudy and Cd have consistently made good choices for the organization, not perfect but mostly good. But I learned a long time ago that if you explain something very clearly to someone and they don’t get it chances are they never will. So I leave you with this… THIS THREAD SUCKS!!!


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  10. HOOP-T

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    I am definitely a Pro-Mo advocate here. But I am sure you all knew that.

    Cat had a great post early in this thread...read it, live it, love it. Mo will be a Rocket.

    We have not stuck our neck out like we did with Pippen.

    Can't we let him actually do something wrong, or screw up somehow before we crucify him???? Otherwise, get used to Mo being a scoring machine for us. I am pretty pumped!

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  11. Rocket River

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    I'm Pro Mo

    H*ll I still say Give Leon Smith a Shot

    I like this because like previously stated
    1. He's Cheap
    2. THIS IS HIS AUDITION
    If he f*cks up . . he outtie.. .
    This is like the test/training before
    you get the real job.
    3. He is easily removed. [Hell if he is a
    big f*ck up we can trade him for Draft
    picks in March]

    Rocket River

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  12. TheFreak

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    Isn't Othella Harrington represented by Falk? Was he when he was with the Rockets?
     
  13. HOOP-T

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    This is a pretty tough line up:

    C-OLAJUWON
    PF-TAYLOR
    SF-WIZARD
    SG-SHANDON ANDERSON
    PG-FRANCIS

    TOP RESERVES:
    MOBLEY
    CATO
    K. THOMAS

    I like it. I like it a lot!!!

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  14. cyber dave

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    Did anyone here forget that Falk was trying to fill his own pockets by involving the other agents that he represents in that whole trade debacle in Seattle? Falk was trying to make himself more money by involving the others and was not looking out for the best individual interests of the players involved.
    How you all doing by the way? been awhile since i posted.

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  15. Achebe

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    I wish everyone would stop with this crap "trust in Rudy & CD. Why? Oh, b/c we're Rockets fans. Great argument.

    It's an experiment, leave it at that. Scottie Pippen was an experiment, Thomas Hamilton was an experiment, drafting Bryce Drew was an experiment and selecting Cuttino at #41 was an experiment.

    Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If you keep an even keel you won't sound like a moron proclaiming the Collier pick as the end of the franchise and then Cuttino as simultaneously the saviour. Get a grip.

    <HR>

    The good thing about having Mo Taylor is that it is merely another option to play. The Rockets could have bigger problems than having a PF that actually shoots above 40% wanting to play for them. Plus, they didn't even have to acquire Pat. Ewing (Yet).

    Most importantly:

    Plus it's a way to keep free press on the Rockets. The Rockets maintain the aura of being a winning franchise. Why? Because they make the decisions to improve their club, constantly. This acquisition was a steal. Shandon Anderson was a steal. Steve Francis was a steal. Even the Scottie Pippen trade (w/ Portland) was a steal... the Rockets liberated themselves from a $20M/year contract to acquire their future Center and picked up a great starting SF too. Again, sometimes it fails and sometimes it doesn't. However, players read the paper all of the time to see what's going on around the league. It's a positive for some other teams' players to keep reading over and over again:

    The Rockets...
    The Rockets...
    The Rockets...

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  16. RocketJer

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    I can't wait to come back here this time next year and hear all of you fools wining about how bad we need to resign Mo. Trust in
    Rudy. If he is this excited than so am I. Mo is a good player that has been stuck on the worst team ever. Look at Rodney Rogers. Not many expected much of him when he left. 6th man!! He is definitely not the final piece of the puzzle, but we are a hell of alot better with him than without.

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    Explain this one to me. He was trying to get one client, Ewing, out of a town where he wasn't wanted, by his teammates or the fans. He was trying move him to a team, Seattle, that could open up a little cap space and a starting job for one of his other clients, Taylor. He also worked it to get another client, Rice, a pretty good contract ($10 million) to play in a big market for a contending team.

    If I'm an NBA player, I want Falk as my agent.


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  18. Ottomaton

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    Falk has a very clear and logical game plan which is to leverage his client base as a group and to claw and scrap for everything he can possibly get for his client. He is a lawyer and this sort of cutthroat behavior is typical and aproved behavior of quite a few of the more successfull corporate lawyers whom I have met.

    I dislike him, but I try to temper my dislike by the fact that judging him as a basketball fan is a little like calling a Marine boot camp sargent a bad guy because he yells and and screams alot. My perspective is out of context to the reality of the situation.

    That having been said, I am getting a big kick out of watching him look like a fool as GM's start to stare down his pathetic little power plays. Specificaly, when Elgin Baylor makes you look bad, its time to re-think your position.

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  19. heypartner

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    Right on Old Man Rocket

    I can see the sea of Mo-bashing surging.

    Who will rise as the Mo-apologist is the question now. And you know what, apologists most often always have the better argument, because they consider the entire team into the equation of measuring a single player's contribution.
     
  20. cyber dave

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    I was just responding to the naysayers who were going on about how Mo didn't want to be here. MAybe it was because of his tenacious agent perhaps?

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