3-4-12 NBA Better Game, Williams or Rondo

Rarity doesn't = more impressive.

Sorry if you don't understand that. But you already showed in the Jeremy Lin thread that you fail to properly use reasoning and logic so I don't blame you.

Again, watch the game! Rondo's rebounding were stats seriously inflated. If he had a 18-10-20 night we wouldn't be talking about this. Before you knock on Williams for beating the BOBCATS a 4-30 team, remember Rondo has freaking Allen, Pierce, and Garnett on his team.

 

People are getting carried away with the uniqueness of Rondo's stat-line.

Deron Williams had the better game. Though maybe adjusting for the opponent there's an argument for Rondo.

 

I think D-Will's game was better. By saying, "50 point games are rare, but not as rare as what Rondo did yesterday" and "there have been only 2 players to ever put up Rondo's line" shows that some are missing the point entirely. A stat line being more unique doesn't make it greater.

D-Will had 57 points on 29 FGAs (which includes a ridiculous 21/21 from the FT line).

 

Watch some of dwight's rebounds, kevin love's, so on Every night there are plenty of gimme rebounds, thats the nature of thegame and that is why stats are not as powerful as we say it is.

Look at some assits from lebron, Paul or rubio anyone..these guys are creators, but when they have 10 assists a game, there are a few where they are just at the top of the key and hit a guy of the wing who makes a shot, he didn't really create a shot and his role and skill since it wasn't him creating the space could've been interchanged with anyone, but its still an assits...happens a lot

 

I see sanity is creeping back in based on the two prior posts by durvasa and krnxsnoopy.

 

LOL... Well said.

 

Scoring is easy; Getting 20 assists for a point guard like Rondo, you're like, yea that's pretty good; But getting 17 boards for a point guard, that's insanity. I picked Rondo.

 

Rondo was a monster but I'd go with DWill just because Rondo had a horrible shooting game and missed tons of layups

 

A point guard with that many rebounds is outstanding.

Although, I don't think Rondo puts up those insane numbers if he's on the Nets.

 

I'm just a big fan of all around games opposed to a big scoring game. Talk about really dictating an outcome of a game, Rondo's line to me is the most impressive. For those saying some of Rondo's rebounds came to him, you still have to be in position to get them, you don't just end up with 17 rebounds. The same thing could be said for some easy points, layups, wide open shots here and there etc.

 

By the numbers, it's rondo, but his inability to hit a single jumpshot was the reason they almost lost that game as well. That fatal flaw in his game is the reason he's still on the trade block.

 

It does if it's a great stat line.

Clearly, 47 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 0 rebounds, 0 steals, 0 turnovers, 0 fouls would be one heck of a unique stat line, but NOT a good one.

But that's not what we're talking about.

I appreciate that Rondo's rebounds may have "fell" to him. Generally, I think Rondo is very overrated. I don't care if my point guard rebounds well. I'm surprised even given he's a good rebounder that he's allowed to be in position to rebound well anyway. Doing so is not conducive to (1) getting back on defense in the case of offensive rebounding, and (2) pushing a fast break in the case of allowing your bigs to get the rebound and give you a quick outlet (though this is partially offset by the fact that having gotten the rebound himself, Rondo can push quickly).

BUT, the stat line was a great one, and happened. He got those rebounds. He got those assist numbers.

To me, Rondo's stat line is more impressive, if just barely. He contributed at a very high level in nearly every facet of the game in a way that short of a quadruple double few ever have. Offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, getting his teammates involved, scoring.

I recognize Deron's game was great. It was.

 

FIFY.

 

I'm going with Deron. I watched all of the Boston game yesterday, and Rondo did not look like he was dominating in any sense (well, except for the assists, but from him that's expected). He missed a ton of gimmes that could have easily put that game away for Boston earlier. Like what other people had mentioned, his rebounding numbers were more due to lucky bounces than they were to him crashing the boards. He also made some pretty silly turnovers. I was scratching my head when they read out his stat line at the end: "Really? He actually did that much?"

Besides, its not as if all Deron did was score; he threw in 7 dimes, 6 boards, a steal and a block too.

 

I don't care how he got the rebounds. Are we really discussing this? It's obviously Rondo.

 

There is nothing unique about quadruple zeroes. Not relevant at all to the discussion. Don't have any earthly idea what your point is.

 

Rondo's statline is indeed more unique, however if you actually watched the two games you'll see Deron had the better game.

A lot of people pointed this out already, but most of Rondo's rebs were defensive rebs, gimmes or random balls that bounced straight to him. While the totality of it seems impressive, majority of the rebs he got wasn't that impactful IMHO. So he got a few rebs that KG or Pierce would've gotten. Big deal.The 20 assists IMHO were much more impressive, however this was mitigated by his horrible shooting night.

On the other hand, Deron played like he was in NBA 2K. 21 for 21 fts is insane.

 

Matt Maloney had better season averages then both of those lines. Get real people not even worth discussing.

 

This thread shows who watched the games and who just looked at the box score lol.