This is the question I have been pondering of late. Mo Taylor is set to sign a 1 yr deal, and the obvious reason for this appears to be that he wants to try for the max next summer after a much improved season. Shandon Anderson could opt out of his contract as well and could easily command a substantial raise over 2.4 mil. If the Rockets just sit with what they have now and dont pick up the option on Bryce Drew's contract this yr, allowing him to become a free agent, then they could give Mo the max next summer but would only be able to give Shandon a very small raise. The question at hand is do they unload Walt Williams who has a salary of 5.58 mil in the summer of 2001, or do they just sit and hold onto what they have? My personal opinion is if Walt can be moved for a FA to be in 2001, then go for it. Eventually, the Rockets will need a defensive minded SF to pair with Langhi anyways. That extra 5.58 mil could be used towards Shandon to keep him happy. Also, I think it would be a good idea to move KT for a FA to be in 2001 as that would clear another 1 mil or so in cap space. With Mo in the puzzle, KT is pretty much not needed. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
I really think that Shandon will stay next year if we can give him the max or not. He seems to like it here, he knows he'll get the max the next year and be set on a team that he's comfortable with for the rest of his career. ------------------ "I'll drop kick those f*ckin' dogs if they come anywhere near me." visit www.swirve.com
HP, That makes sense, I didnt think of it that way. The Rockets could just give Shandon a 1 yr deal for around 4 mil then go about the rest of their business. The middle class exception really doesnt matter much here. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
SA would only be one yr away from Full Bird. Are we obligated to give him the Dream windfall? Is that deal we cut? Honest question. I was wondering that myself. Would Shandon accept a small raise to around 4 mil for one season with the promise of a max contract in 2002? If Shandon has another solid season, I would think teams would be lined up with cash in hand to pay him in 2001. Would he turn down all the potential suitors and play one more yr at a lesser wage with the promise of the max in 2002? ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
Wow, Wow, Wow, I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. The number of thing between now and next summer are.......well a lot. ------------------
Also, one other thing. This is a question for the capologists. What are the rules on losing your salary exceptions? How far below the cap do you have to fall? Also, are the Rockets only considered below the cap once they actually renounce Hakeem? Thus, until they renounce Hakeem next summer would they still be considered over the cap and holding their salary exceptions? ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
A trade would have to take us $4.5m below the cap before the trade exception disappears. We either have it entirely, or not at all. For other Team-based exceptions (as opposed to Player-based exceptions like the 3 Birds), your question is actually irrelevant. The Team-based exceptions count as salary no matter if they are used or not. This means that their very existence is less cap room. These exceptions ALWAYS exist and ALWAYS count against the cap until they are converted to salary. Matter of fact, I am pretty sure you MUST use a TEAM-based exception that would cover a given contract if you have one at you disposal. All I can reason about that rule, is it would prevent dicking around with players when you are right close to the cap. Like by saying that they need to sign $1.5m cause that's all we have available under they cap, "and we really need to keep that middle-class exception for later...you understand." [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited August 25, 2000).]
If Mo comes to H-Town and blow up with say 20pts and 9boards and wants to stay here at the end of the season I say max him out. And if Shanndon dosen't want to play for that small raise then let him go.
Lil Francis, Projection on your post: Shandon has two solid seasons playing for below market and Mo has one solid season in which he signed for the best he could get. Dis Shandon's two years of sacrifice for Mo's one? Sorry, I couldn't do that. Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated!
If Mo gets 10+ boards, I'd give him everything available. That would make him a 15-10 easily and likely a 17-10, that would place him in rarified air. If he gets 9-10 boards, I'd give him $7m base. If he gets 7-9, $6m. If he gets <7, Cato's salary. I would give him no score-based incentives. He must perform on the glass for me to keep his ass. In fact, I'd sign that into Falk's agreement. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited August 25, 2000).]
Mango, SA would only be one yr away from Full Bird. Are we obligated to give him the Dream windfall? Is that deal we cut? Honest question. I say give the windfall to Mo or drop him.
heypartner, Not the max, but it would be insulting for Shandon to get an offer for 4 million after two solid sasons while Lil Francis would have Mo given the max for one solid season. Why was the opt out year written into the contract if it didn't have some purpose? There has to be a good payoff for Shandon sometime after taking lowball money. Suppose he takes 4 million in 2001 and gets Full Bird in 2002. Does he get Full Bird max in 2002? If Shandon decided that he would take a hike, what would he fetch as a 2001 FA? Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated!
Mango: I think that SA was the second best player on the Rockets last year, but I don't think Houston should sign him for a large contract next year. I wish we could, but if Mo performs well... take care of him first... an then give Shandon a *nice* contract after he gains full bird rights. If Shandon can average 15 points with his great D, actually, give him the max. You might be overpaying him a bit, sure... but when you average it in with three years of being so UNDERPAID, it really wouldn't be bad. The hard part is convincing him to take another year at a below market salary. ------------------ David Falk is a MoFo. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
