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2012 GOP Presidential Primary

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. jo mama

    jo mama Member

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    not yet - give him 4 more years and he might catch up though!:)
     
  2. ryan_98

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    can someone fill me in on the history, or point me to a link that explains, a brokered convention and the possible outcomes
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    All hell breaks loose. Hide your women, hide your children. And Santorum would be everywhere at that point.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    Because of inertia, the election will be close (unless Santorum is nominated). IMO, 4-5% will be the margin for Obama. Some sort of gaffe, scandal, significant event (national or global) could occur 30-60 days before election day and the GOP candidate (again, if it's someone viable) could capitalize and squeak out a close election.

    Republicans need to play horseshoes (just come as close as possible) and hope something weird happens to flip things around. I think overconfident Dems (like some on this forum) and "woe-is-me" Republicans are losing focus. John McCain was running against a tanking economy and having Sarah Palin as a millstone around his neck and still only lost by 7%. If he hadn't been stupid enough to select Palin, (he would have gotten my vote and) I believe he would have won.
     
  5. CCorn

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    ^^^ But I think it's a joke to compare either Santorum or Romney to a decorated hero like McCain.
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    I don't understand why this joke never gets less funny. It never wears out. It is funnier every time than the last. Who knew Dan Savage could ever have such an impact? God bless the internet.
     
  7. mc mark

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    You leaving the country?
     
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  8. A_3PO

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    I have to say one of the things that actually turned me off about McCain was he touted his military service too early, too often and almost used it as an argument for why he deserved to be president. Instead, he should have run on the issues and used it as a powerful closing argument in the final weeks. As it turned out, his campaign was on fumes near the end (though Palin had a lot to do with that).

    I'm not comparing Santorum to McCain, but Romney. You may disagree with this: Romney will run a more effective campaign against Obama than McCain did if he ever gets enough mojo to win the nomination. It still probably won't be enough to win.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    I love how nobody is willing or capable of refuting these points.
     
  10. Htownhero

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    Tell me how Romney or Santorum win and I'll honestly respond to all your points. Deal?
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    more electoral votes
     
  12. jEXCLUSIVE

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    Lol...

    Similar to how Jordan Hill can eclipse Hakeem, by scoring more points and getting more blocks... Right?
     
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  13. FranchiseBlade

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    You've caught on to the logic.

    bigtexxx tries to be clever but has exposed himself sticking his proverbial foot in his proverbial mouth in several threads claiming not to be anti-gay, or prejudiced against blacks, and then posting things that show he is both of those. It's been hilarious to watch. The more he tries to rationalize it, the more he sticks his foot in his mouth.
     
  14. ToyCen428

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    Want to show you guys this. The only delegate numbers you've probably seen is from the main news networks and other websites online that has a little difference in numbers but not much. I'm here to tell you they are projections based on the popular vote. Ron Paul's campaign released what they feel are accurate delegate counts so far, and the totals are different then what you have seen:

    Total Delegates (IA, NH, SC, FL, NV, MN, CO, ME)
    Romney: 93 (6, 7, 2, 50, 14, 2, 7, 5)
    Paul: 82 (13, 3, 0, 0, 5, 28, 17, 16)
    Gingrich: 29 (0, 0, 23, 0, 6, 0, 0, 0)
    Santorum: 25 (6, 0, 0, 0, 3, 7, 9, 0)
    Unpledged: 14 (3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 3, 3, 3)

    And watch out for Florida, if the ruling gets overturned then the delegates will be split up and not winner-take-all. Meaning Romney will get about 25 of those instead of 50, and the remaining 25 would be split up between the other 3..


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    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/291218/ron-paul-s-delegate-strategy-katrina-trinko
     
  15. Htownhero

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    C'mon man, can we really not have an honest back and forth on this?
     
  16. jEXCLUSIVE

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    This is GREAT news for Obama! :eek:
     
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    Well, Al, I think that in order to win the game they'll have to score more points than their opponent.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    as the NFG, you need to first respond to my questions. Then I'll consider taking the time to answer yours.
     
  19. CCorn

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    He's a business man, so he probably will. But an effective campaign won't do too much to help a questionable platform.
     
  20. Htownhero

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    A couple of things.

    First, NFG? Check the dates rook, I was here two years before you.
    Second, you haven't asked any questions. You made a series of statements that, I guess, you want someone to argue with you about now.
    Third, I asked my question before you made your statements.

    If you are unwilling or unable to give me a scenario in with Romney or Santorum win, that's fine. I understand you hope Obama will lose, I'm not trying to dissuade your feelings on that. I'm honestly curious as to how you think it's going to happen.
     
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