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Dick Armey Offers Advice to Republicans Upon his Departure.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Refman, Dec 7, 2002.

  1. rimrocker

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    I'm sorry, I wasn't aware all Republicans were politicians. Since you asked though, Armey, Ashcroft, Gramm, Helms, Pat Robertson, Wesley Pruden - Editor of the Washington Times, Phyllis Schafly, and Thad Cochran have all given positive interviews to The Southern Partisan.
     
  2. Phi83

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    Oski,
    You are just showing what an ignorant, immature, little person you really are. I take great offense to what you just said, for two reasons.

    1. My family is from Louisiana/Mississippi and not by any standards are they racist or bigots.

    2. I am not the one who tried to quote a joke and pen someone as a racist.

    You can look at any post I have left on this board and I have never made a racist remark or joke. So listen up junior, stop the race baiting and race manipulating it just shows you to be a fool.


    Rimrocker,
    If you can remember your history correctly, Republicans are the party of Lincoln, Grant, and Roosevelt. Sure you could read all you want into a conservative ideology and say that democrats of the 60's would have been Republicans based on ideology. But the fact that Democrats have a history of racism does not change.
     
  3. Htownhero

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    Wow, 5 personal attacks in one post....impressive.
     
  4. Refman

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    The Dems try to scare people into voting for them.

    1) Byrd ad.

    2) "IF you vote Republican another black church will burn."

    3) Ed Asner phone calls to the elderly.

    The list goes on and on. If these are scare and manipulation tactics I don't what what would be.

    It's called reality folks.
     
  5. Major

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    The list goes on and on. If these are scare and manipulation tactics I don't what what would be.


    As opposed to Tony Sanchez supports murder or Max Cleeland is anti-American...
     
  6. Oski2005

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    Nice try Phi, but I never called you a racist. I was pointing out the similarity of you and that waiter to make ignorant assumptions. You reacted pretty quickly, almost as if you are constantly accused of being a racist and it's just a normal reflex of yours to defend yourself. Anyways, you can call me names all you want, it's not the first time and it won't be the last because everytime I post something you disagree with, and it always has been something contrary to your OPINION, you start calling me names. That has shown me plenty about your character and I already know that everything you say is just mindless vomiting of what you heard on Rush's show the other day. By the way, what do you mean by race baiting. That term is pretty harsh, you make it seem like minorities are as dumb as fish and Dems just try to reel them in.

    Nobody has bothered to explain what the political benefits of trying to help the poor or minorities are. There sure are lots of benefits to helping out the rich and big business though. So tell me again why it's a stretch for what we're doing to be moraly right, but an absolute for Republicans when they cut programs that help people, loosen regulations on companies that pollute and damage the environment.

    Don't tell me about scare tactics when republicans constantly use religion to scare the bejeezes out of people.
     
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  7. rimrocker

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    Brilliant. I had no idea those three were Republicans. I cannot offer any argument that could counter such a level of understanding.
     
  8. Puedlfor

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    What exactly does Robert Bryd have to do with Trent Lott? Your attempt to change the issue was deftly done, but again, has no relevance to whether or not Trent Lott is a racist.

    If the entire Democratic Party gave a speech at a rally for Bill Clinton, put on by people who wanted him to lie about his affair, and then failed to criticize his actions; then it would be appropriate to say that. But since they didn't, your analogy doesn't hold.
     
  9. Phi83

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    Now let me get this straight, by you comparing me to the waiter in this joke you are not call me a racist. Riiiight. :rolleyes:

    Man Oski you are a racebaiter in the 3rd degree.

    Trust me I have never been called anything close to a racist. I just take offense to ignorant comments made by immature fools.

    If I remember right, you were the first to call names... Look at this thread if you have a clouded memory.

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46236&perpage=30&pagenumber=2
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    Could you imagine the uproar by Republicans if Al Gore gave a speech to the Communist Party of America (if there even is one), and the subsequent uproar if Democrats tried to play it off?
     
  11. Oski2005

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    Yeah, I called you ethnocentric and you agreed with me.



    Then we went back and forth where you accused clinton some more and I tried to convince you that Bush is no angel either. After that, you told me I was full of ****.



    Damn, don't you ever get tired of being proven wrong???
     
  12. rimrocker

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    What if Gore, Kennedy, Pelosi, Hoyer, Streisand, and the editor for the NYTimes gave interviews to a Shining Path newspaper praising the communist leadership and saying they stood for the true America and their ideas and ideals were right for this country?

    What I don't get about modern conservatives/republicans is that they cannot admit fault of any kind. Instead of saying Lott was wrong on a clearcut moral issue, there is an attempt to defend him or change the subject by saying "you too."

    Let's play a game:

    I'll take the last six Democratic presidents and offer criticisms in the hopes that some GOPer will take the last 6 presidents of that party and do the same (Ford can count or not count as you want).

    FDR: My favorite Pres of all time, but allowing American citizens to be incarcerated because they looked like our enemy was beyond the pale. Trying to pack the Supreme Court was stupid and wrong. Passing on doing some small things that could have moved civil rights along may have been politically prudent, but ultimately cowardly.

    Truman: Loyalty oaths were unnecessary and political pandering at its worst. Didn't forcefully condemn McCarthy and Nixon on their paranoid anti-communism. Too simplistic in foreign policy views, bad decisions on Korea.

    Kennedy: Hard to argue that voter fraud and underhanded deals didn't help him into the office. Did not expend the political capital necessary to reign in J. Edgar. Knew the Vietnam War was a no-win situation, yet continued to put off major decisions.

    LBJ: Knew the Vietnam War was a no-win situation and refused to use political capital to extricate us from that morass. Not only that, but intentionally lied to the American people about the reality of the situation. Didn't do anything about J. Edgar.

    Jimmy: Too sanctimonious and unable to see the long-term big picture in both domestic and foreign policy. Lacked a viable economic plan and response. Alienated potential democratic allies in Congress thus costing him innumerable votes. Ineffective in a crisis.

    Bill: Personal peccadilloes ruined his potential and stupidly gave his enemies an opening. Stupidly put his wife in charge of reforming health care and thus set back true health care reform for an indeterminable period. Primarily concerned with domestic issues at the expense of foreign policy (at least early on) and came into office not having a clue as to how run Washington and the Federal Govt., thus wasting his first two years at least.
     
  13. Refman

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    The Republican Party held the birthday celebration (not rally genius) for Strom. If you are calling the Republican Party overall a racist organization then I am sure Coiln Powell and Condi Rice would be VERY interested to know that you think they are racists.

    The comment that was made before was that Lott didn't condem Strom's actions in his past...so Lott tacitly approved. That was the same analogy I made. It is a sound analogy. It would behoove you to read the post I was responding to.
     
  14. Puedlfor

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    You should do the same thing, because you completely missed what I was saying, and which incident I was referring to - then you'll see why your analogy was faulty.
     
  15. rimrocker

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    "Heavens no, we're not racists nor do we support that type of thinking. Even though we ran ads in rural Michigan that mentioned "Detroit" as often and in as derisive a tone as possible, why, we're not racist. Even though we just wanted to make sure that black voters were properly registered and insisted on confronting them at the polls in some of the close states, we're not racist. And I feel just so bad about those people being removed from the Florida voting rolls when they weren't even criminals, but it did work out for George and thank heavens we have someone representing all the people as President in these terrible times. On that whole census thing, we didn't even consider it would result in undercounting minorities, we just wanted what was best for our country. Even though we've got a big enough umbrella to not only welcome, but encourage people like Strom, Lott, and Helms, we're not racist. Why we've even got Colin and Condi helping George out with foreign policy. There, that proves it! And my goodness, aren't they well-dressed and well-spoken! When people talk about us being racists I just don't know what to think. All I know is that I'm glad those Democrats pander to drug dealers and career criminals like Willie Horton, because it makes us look good. Oh, and I'm not racist either. Why, I even have two black friends... Frank down at the club and Lester at work. Frank always knows what I want to eat and Lester is such a pleasure to work with when we have to have copies made on time. I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. I mean after all, there are no more lynchings and there are even some minorities in Congress. This whole race thing is just so much history to me."
     
  16. Refman

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    You are a smartass...and when you call all Republicans racist, that is a personal offront to me. Not to mention the millions of Republicans YOU HAVE NEVER MET.

    You really should learn to think before you go off calling an entire group of people racist without any evidence of such.

    All you have become is the little boy who cried racist. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Timing

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    Walks like a duck and talks like a duck? :)

    Don't you know that the GOP is the party of minorities and the poor? Dick Armey said so. Geez... c'mon man.
     
  18. Refman

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    Republican Party a racist org? I think these people disagree.

    http://groups.msn.com/BlackRepublicans

    A homophobic group? I think these people disagree.

    http://www.lcr.org/

    I'm not asking any of you to like the Republicans or to vote for them. But to villify a mainstream political party that has membership in the millions as a racist organization is ludicrous.
     
  19. rimbaud

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    You all are racist communist idiots. Except for Mrs. JB. I agree with her that Armey made a stupid comment and she was pretty constructive in her presentation.

    The rest of you all need to sit in "time out" and/or the corner and think about how usesless all of this has been.
     
  20. Refman

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    Yes, sir. :)
     

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