Trade with Toronto Raptors Houston trades: Eddie Griffin Glen Rice Kelvin Cato Toronto trades: Antonio Davis Morris Peterson Hakeem Olajuwan You guys get to see Hakeem's career officially end in Houston. Getting Hakeem's contract would save the Rocket's organization $9 million over two years, because 80% of it is covered under insurance. Houston gets a solid playoff veteran in Antonio Davis. Morris Peterson can be Mobley's backup and replace the more expensive Glen Rice. You get rid of Cato who's not going to like sharing minutes with Yao Ming.
Hakeems carreer did officially end in Houston. In more ways than one. Thanks for picking up the tab. Now move along.
Dear Lord, Please give me the strength to deal with these demonic trades that so easily tempt the a-hole deep inside of me to arise from within and strike down those that have proposed them. hehe ....j/k of course
Are you blind that this deal will actually HELP the Rockets?? Cato's contract is pretty big and long....Antonio's ends right around when Yao becomes a free agent. Why pay so much for Cato when he's just going to be a backup for Yao? Also AD is a workhorse and a playoff performer. And Morris Peterson is a cheap alternative to an aging Glen Rice.
How about: Shaq Kobe Bryant Kelvin Cato Kenny Thomas Glenn Rice LA would have 3 veterans that will carry them to a title. We would get some decent players too.
If you are going to propose a trade then at least put out a realistic one. No one wants to weaken their team at our expense.
I just have to add something here. The majority of the time that posters propose trades, its to get rid of players that a) They just dont like b) Make too much, and produce too little c) Do not play team ball d) Are washed up or e) Are just not good to begin with. In return, they want a) major role players on a contender b) two or three of that teams best players or c) other teams baggage they they think will somehow transform into great players once they come to our team. See why these trades would never work????
I haven't heard anything yet that explains WHY you don't like this trade. Glen Rice is done, he's getting paid 9.2 mil this year, 9.6 mil next year. Hakeem is done too, he's getting paid 5.6 and 6.3 this year and next. Kenny Thomas = Morris Peterson AD > Cato
And I've asked for none of the above. In exchange Toronto is getting Cato (makes too much, produces too little), Glen Rice (same), and Kenny Thomas (role player, but Mo Pete is a role player as well). I think you guys put too much value in your players. Or maybe you think Cato and Rice are performing according to how much their making?
Holy crap gamer4Life, you might want to check up on your bball knowledge. Hakeem retired in Houston earlier this year against Golden State. Big halftime tribute. Any of this ring a bell. You can't trade a retired man. What are you smokin. Besides, Davis won't like to share mins with Ming any more than Cato. If anything he would demand more. Plus Cato is playin fine and knows his role as back up. Getting rid of some forwards for one good forward may be a prospect worth looking at. In most trades, the team that gets the star from the trade as oppose to the many solid players usually wins that trade. We have many good forwards at 3 and 4 but nothing solid. Mo T looks good and Griff still has the whole potential thing. Kenny was always thought of as the odd man out. We shouldn't focre the hand though. The reason for trades like these is to prevent chemistry/minute distribution problems. Kenny is a good player and if he starts to demand something then we can talk. Don't mess with something unless there is an apparent problem. Trades are fun to speculate, but we should also think about the trade and be able to defend our views. Getting rid of Rice is good but you can't trade him for Davis. Toronto considers Davis a key player. Losing Kenny to help with the minutes is good but Toronto would need more for Mo Pete. They need a 4, we could lose a for. They have many good 3's. We have some potentially good to bad to old 3's. So look it over and try again. The trade should have us lose a good 4 and an ok 3 for a good 3 and an ok 4.
Gamer, Its just the opposite. Im putting less value in our players than you are. Thats why Toronto is not going to give up 2 quality starters for those guys that you have named. KT is the only real value you are giving away. Thats why it wouldnt work.
Hakeem's "unofficially" retired in a ceremony in Houston. But to get paid he's still "officially" playing. So his contract is still tradeable by Toronto. The value of his contract is good for salary matching purposes, or for the other team to get a trade exemption. And as for AD, his wife indirectly said that AD wanted out. They then said they were joking, but the possibility is still there. Also, AD considers himself a 4, that's why he usually plays with scrub centers (that's why Toronto needs Cato) Oh by the way, I'm a Raptors fan first, Houston fan second. So I'm asking Rockets fans if YOU would do this trade if presented to you. It seems some people think Houston is getting ripped off, while others think Toronto is getting ripped off. As long as there are equal numbers on both sides of the fence....
I guess it comes down to this...why would Toronto trade 2 of their 4 best players for 2 bad contracts, one of whom is finally showing some signs of life, but hardly a guarantee, and another guy who everybody and his sister says we should trade, and who's contract is up after this year? Cato is significantly less valuable than Davis, a former All-Star, and one of the Raptors leaders. Rice is a bad deal on bad wheels, and the Raps already have Voshon Lenard and Lamond Murray, when he gets back, who are better, younger, and cheaper players of the same kind as Rice. Peterson has more trade value than KT.
